Monday, March 9, 2009

Dan 9:16-19

"O Lord, in accordance with all Your righteous acts, let now Your anger and Your wrath turn away from Your city Jerusalem, Your holy mountain; for because of our sins and the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and Your people have become a reproach to all those around us. "So now, our God, listen to the prayer of Your servant and to his supplications, and for Your sake, O Lord, let Your face shine on Your desolate sanctuary. "O my God, incline Your ear and hear! Open Your eyes and see our desolations and the city which is called by Your name; for we are not presenting our supplications before You on account of any merits of our own, but on account of Your great compassion. "O Lord, hear! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, listen and take action! For Your own sake, O my God, do not delay, because Your city and Your people are called by Your name."

"God's glory must be the ultimate goal of every prayer request we make."

John MacArthur

156 comments:

Wayne said...

aps i'm friest?

Wayne said...

oops, in such a rush that I spelled it a bit wrong

Alf Cengia said...

Wayne, I'm convinced it's a Google problem. Happens to me all he ime.

Late Night Lisa said...

Kirk Cameron Talks with Gang Members (Tough situation.I applaud him for staying on task.)

State bans prayer at Christian institutionsPolicy censoring faithful 'on their own private property' challenged.

Climate Change denial is now a Mental Disorder

Great Grany 5 said...

Naw, you are just typing as you speak! Ya all!

I got so caught up reading the comments on the previous post that I completely forgot this new one.

My great new fiber optic internet crashed all over the place on Thursday night and we were having a terrible time just trying to get on the internet period. Most of the time it was a "unable to connect" and so our tech came out today and discovered that the main feed was having major DNS problems. That means "don't know sickum" in Okie talk. LOL

I have clicked on all of the links and I finished off with Davey's welcome comments and I thank him greatly. I agree with what he said about not getting anxious or paranoid about the whole thing because God is our keeper, supplier and has put a hedge of protection around those that love him and obey his word. No matter what comes he is in charge of my life and if I have to, I will just turn the praise music up higher and higher. I love opening my windows at this time of the year and sending out the message of praise and worship to my neighbors. My hearing isn't as good as it used to be and I love the exhilaration of "Shout To The LORD" by Hillsongs. My neighbor from India should have all of the songs memorized by this time and if not, I will just keep on playing it.

David Wilkerson's prophecy is another witness to what Oral Roberts experienced in the early 2000's (not sure of the date) and also, Perry Stone's of the last couple of years and even 2008. We have all known that there was something going on in the Spiritual Realm for at least 2 years. Back in March 2007, we were all discussing much of the same thing at Joel's blog. But I have to tell you all something that might help a little; back in 1967 a major move of God in our little rural area of Northern Missouri was due to the Holy Spirit stirring the waters of our rest and comfort with the distinct unsettling regarding what was taking place in Israel. We saw the Jewish people (men mostly)praying at the Western Wall for the first time in over 2000 years. They were crying and praying in their custom of bowing and it was so profound. We knew that God was making some very big movements for his people and we knew from the scene in front of us on the TV sets that we were living in the final days of our assigned ages.

We cried with those people and celebrated to because they had been led in that war by God's Angelic hosts and it was told over and over again the wondrous things that had happened during the battles. There were angel stories that caused even the hardest commanders to weep. God drew near and it was palatable to every believer and non believer. The Goyim knew God had intervened for His Chosen Ones, the Apples of God's eye!

The curtain is about ready to fall on the final act of the church and I am hoping that it will be glorious. I also am very selfish in wanting everyone of us to be in the right place at the right time to experience the final curtain call.

Maranatha!

Grany

jib said...

Hey Wayne
happens to me all the time too.

Davey
have been thinking about you. glad you are ok and I have had the same sense or lack of direction? to massively stockpile. I read about all that is happening and it truly doesn't worry me. In fact as odd as it sounds I rejoice to an extent because I know He is coming soon and I will see my Savior face to face finally as well as loved ones that I haven't seen in a long while.

if you all want I can repost my links from the other post although since they are way down at the end. there are a couple worth reading about the economy and I also gave a couple illustrations about how big 1 trillion is.

Late Night Lisa said...

(This was an interesting intrepertation. I keep thinking about what "diagonal stripes" could represent.)

This is what I put in ZionsCRY Feb 3 upon reading Michael's 2 visions

The LORD gives visions to Michael Boldea, an honest and true man of GOD. Here are 2 of them I believe relate to NOW in Time.
Eagle and 3 Serpents

The Finger and FIST of GOD

Excerpt from Michael's vision

Another serpent appeared, red and black diagonal stripes covering its body, and without hesitation struck out at the eagle's right wing, biting down, and refusing to release. After a momentary tug of war the serpent tore off flesh and feathers, leaving a large wound on the eagle's right wing. The second bite was much worse then the first, and for an instant the eagle was stunned. The second bite seemed to come from an unexpected place.

My commentary on that

Michael's vision of the eagle, America, and the 3 serpents. The first attack occurred 911. I believe Obama is the second serpent. The second serpent was black and red. Obama is called black, and he is a Communist/Marxist - red. His wife wore a black and red dress which made her look like a black widow spider.

He immediately bit down on America's RIGHT WING, the Christians.

His policies are bringing down the wrath, the FIST of GOD, on our land. Those of us who have not worshipped this O-beast are stunned. And wouldnt our own whitehouse, now a blackhouse, be truly an unexpected place for a Destroyer of America to come from?

And at any time, America could turn to the LORD and He would help us.

(Just as a side note. Today on Christian radio it spoke about a survey on who was the most historically influencial inspiring person to exist from #1-#10.(Not exact words but something along those lines) At the time when Bush was 1st elected the #1 spot went to Jesus Christ-then other people on down the line. They did the same survey now and the #1 spot went to Obama and the #2 spot is Jesus Christ.)

Great Grany 5 said...

JIM C. HERE is a link you might find very interesting and remember back to June of 2007 our conversations regarding a dream. See if it rings any bells for you.

LORI, is there a likelyhood that you would have the email alert regarding comments posted at Joel's? Would you still have the one that I posted about a dream I had on Mothers' Day that year? If you do, would you email it to me. I believe I know the direction of my new project that we have been praying about lately. I would greatly appreciate it.

I am really going around in circles tonight. We hope we have the internet situation taken care of but really weird things have been happening here at the Okie Ranch and I am really getting battle weary. The battle is heating up children and that can only mean one thing. We all know what that is.

Jesus said that no man would know the day or the hour when he would call us out, but he did say that the battle would quicken and things would be shaken like they had never been before. There is a massive amount of shaking and I have a great strong witness that God is about to write on the walls of the White House a final warning. Don't know what or when, but it will happen and Obama team will only get one chance to respond. Then all bets are off.

I am going to try to relax and maybe even take a nap so I won't be checking my email which I have not been able to access since Thursday or Friday, don't remember which. Just tired of the struggle and no patience left.

Serpents represent Evil and the Father of all lies. Colors are representative too but you will have to check that one out according to the Jewish customs. Eagles can be the symbol of many things and one of them is valor and honor. However, I haven't really researched it out and I am too sleepy right now to do it. So later, if you all don't mind.

NATE and MAC, keeping you in my prayers because it just makes me feel useful and fuzzy warm.

Love and blessings to everyone,
Grany

Great Grany 5 said...

My kids are planning on taking me to Missouri in a week or so and I am really excited about the whole thing. Still sleepy though.

Grany

jib said...

For Nate and anyone else who's ever had an MRI

jib said...

great commentary on the One
Slickness with a straight face

N said...
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Great Grany 5 said...

This is a REAL neurological test.

Sit comfortably and be calm.

In other words, put your thinking process aside, put your brain in neutral gear.

1- Find the C below. Do not use any cursor help.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

2- If you already found the C, now find the 6 below.

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

9999699999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

3- Now find the N below. It's a little more difficult..

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNMMMMMMMM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

This is NOT a joke. If you were able to pass these 3 tests, you can cancel your annual visit to your neurologist.

Your brain is great and you're far from having a close relationship with Alzheimer. Congratulations!

I FOUND THEM ALL AND YOU CAN TOO!

Great Grany 5 said...

Good nite everyone! It has been a long day and sleep sounds very good right now.

Love to you all,
Grany

donna said...

I'll be darned if I can find that "N".

:)

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Anonymous said...

Here it is, Donna.

N

I'm still looking for the O

donna said...

LOL funny!

Great Grany 5 said...

Donna, please accept the Bat's N because the comments when it was posted cut off when it was posted. It was number 36 in the first line and the editor of the blog comment page cuts the line off. I have it on my open office document and it just didn't post.

Sorry about that one.

Grany

Great Grany 5 said...

Can't get to sleep and too tired to wrestle the bed anymore. Anyone for a few rounds of arm wrestling?

Grany

jib said...

Nate I just knew you'd appreciate that article!

God Shed His Grace on the USA

interesting commentary on What is the Last Trumpet?

Anonymous said...

Doh!

Alf Cengia said...

Grany, I'm too scared to arm wrestle you! Give you a race though.

Jib, good article on the last trump. It amazes me how posttribbers think that's a problem for pretrib. The 7th trumpet occurs long before Rev 20:4 which is around the time most of them have the rapture.

Good thing that preview idea - I nearly wrote last rump!

jim.carroll said...

Grany, I'm glad you 'fessed up about the "N". I was ready to rip the nerves out of the back of my head, it was so stressful to keep going over that pattern.

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jib said...

Amazing Grace don't know if anyone posted this before but it's worth viewing at least once a day imo

Not sure I'd arm wrestle with her either

jib said...

actually since I read it in my inbox and not on line I found the N because the whole thing cam through complete

Alf Cengia said...

When doctors are ordered to kill

Alesia said...

Although things are not perfect

Because of trial or pain

Continue in thanksgiving

Do not begin to blame

Even when the times are hard

Fierce winds are bound to blow

God is forever able

Hold on to what you know

Imagine life without His love

Joy would cease to be

Keep thanking Him for all the things

Love imparts to thee

Move out of "Camp Complaining"

No weapon that is known

On earth can yield the power

Praise can do alone

Quit looking at the future

Redeem the time at hand

Start every day with worship

To "thank" is a command

Until we see Him coming

Victorious in the sky

We'll run the race with gratitude

Xalting God most high

Yes, there'll be good times and yes some will be bad, but...

Zion waits in glory...where none are ever sad!

"I AM Too blessed to be stressed!" The shortest distance between a problem and a solution is the distance between your knees and the floor.
The one who kneels to the Lord can stand up to anything..

Love and peace be with you forever, Amen.

campsmore said...

Aren't those all N's? Just kidding... time to update the specs!

Not sure Grany would win the race or the arm wrestling, but I know for sure, she'd win the Dance OFF! You Go Grany!

Alesia, that's pretty cool.

Addison is currently taking the second half of his test. It should be over by noon. Thanks for praying. He's as grateful as I.

Anne said...

New post a Joel's

campsmore said...

Romania needs EU, IMF loan says president

Amid financial turmoil, China boosts its global influence

EU set for bruising G20 encounter with US

U.S. dollar replaced by ... digital gold?

UN's IAEA warns extremist groups to be 'No. 1 security threat'

Wikipedia has erased all critical comments from Obama's page

Catholic Church Battle at CT State Capitol

Ahmadinejad really is the man in charge?

Iran says nuclear plant to start operating by Aug 22

Barak gives Netanyahu intelligence material on Iranian nuclear threat

Turkey tells Iran to review policies ahead of visit

Iran seen as target of Saudi overtures to Syria

Tension rises as N Korea cuts off hotline

Germany's Russia Question

Russia, Libya sign warship contract worth up to $200 mln

Galilee Rivers Flowing Again

campsmore said...

Addison is done... Wants to take last test without classes, so his results today will determine whether or not he has to attend. He'd like to take the last test on Friday to qualify for the big test. If that makes any sense at all.

Great Grany 5 said...

OK, I had exactly 4 hours of sleep and it all came after 4 a.m. What time did I go to sleep? Miserable night and I am heavy lidded this morning. So if things don't get typed correctly or the sentence isn't formed right, or I don't finish a sentence, Get over it! I am too tired to care right at this point.

I have read all of the comments and glad you found the neurological test interesting. Sorry about the missing "N" but I did give you plenty of "M" "O" and "9"'s so I hope that made up the slight.

I fixed something for Jim's breakfast, what I couldn't tell you, but I am heading to the recliner and sleep ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Marge said...

Grany,
Have a "happy snooze :)"

I had to laugh at your reference to using good English. I have always enjoyed being creative with mine..

Today's Inspiration is one that you've probably all heard, but it's good!

"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world the master calls a butterfly."

Everyone,
Have a great day in the Lord, and God bless!

Late Night Lisa said...

Alesia,

I like that!

Grany,

Last night I figured I was close to contacting Alzheimers when I couldn't find the N.

Homeward Bound said...

Wow, brain tests, acrostics, and caterpillar/butterfly inspirations! Enjoyed them all.

Blessings to you all here in the cave.

-HB

donna said...

LOL glad I didn't spend too much time on it and glad I don't have to see a neurologist!

I am almost positive that there is a Biblical prediction that states the seas shall rise in the end times....but am too lazy at the moment to find it.

So
this
headline caught my eye:
"Sea Rise 'To Exceed Projections'"

Marge said...

Homeward Bound,
I jumped back, On Line, for a min., before heading out for the day. And I thought you might like the verse that I've been given today, too. I know, I needed it!

And now...a Word from Galatians...

And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not...

As we have opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Gal. 6:9 and 10

Good to hear from you!

Where is Blood Bought? Anyone heard from her, as of late? Or, A Child of the King, Judy, Forgiven Daughter, Shelia, Stacy, Scott,...?

jim.carroll said...

Greetings, all! Some comments on some of the links:

Mac, the one on "When doctors are ordered to kill": Something most people don't know is that since 1972 the number of medical schools requiring that the students take the Hippocratic Oath has gone down. The reason is that the Oath could be viewed as forbidding performing abortions. Right now, I don't know of any medical school that has their graduates take the Oath. That means the majority of doctors practicing in the US today have never promised to "first do no harm."

Lori, on the "Catholic Church Battle at CT State Capitol", to let you know that the bill was tabled this morning, and is not expected to leave committee during this session. The story behind that bill: last year a priest was convicted and sentenced to prison for embezzling a large amount of money from the parish to spend on his lover. That particular parish was organized so that there was no finance committee that was empowered to review the books. A very nasty event. This isn't a problem in most parishes (including the ones where I live in Iowa) because the parishes all have finance committees that include the priest or the bishop as voting members.

In theory, this bill was designed to prevent that from happening again. But like the hate crime laws that was to make it a federal crime to hang nooses in front of peoples houses, this went too far. It took away all discretionary actions from the Bishop so that if the parish went out of control, the only option available to the Bishop was to close the parish. It didn't help that one of the bill's sponsors was part of the homosexual couple that sued the state to permit homosexual marriage. This bill was viewed by many as a warning to the Church to stay out of politics.

One of the articles that Joel links to ("Tension rises as N Korea cuts off hotline") has me worried. I'm thinking with Kim Jong Il possibly out of the picture due to health problems, the North Korean state is cruising along with no one really in the driver's seat. Or rather, whoever is driving is whoever has the most clout at the time. That's why we're seeing such saber-rattling right now. Does anyone know if NK and Syria have mutual defense treaties in place? Or with any country in the Middle East? If the sparks start flying there, that could be what sets off renewed fighting between Hez'B'Allah in Lebanon and Israel.

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Kathy Hall said...

Lisa,

Made me laugh too. I also couldn't find the N and then began to wonder what I might be headed for...

Anne said...

I wasted far too much time looking for the stupid N, seconds and seconds.

Jim, don't know if this helps but remember that NK was involved in the "alleged" nuclear reactor site that Israel took out and also the chemical plant that blew up. I'm going by memory, and since I never found the N, we all know what that means.

Donna, is this the passage you are thinking of? (Jesus speaking) Luke 21:25 “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves, 26 people fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

This is one of the verses which convinced me that we are in the end times, because it seems to me that we have never seen the "nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves" like we do today with the global warming debate.

Kathy Hall said...
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Kathy Hall said...

That delete was mine...

Anne,

You REALLY made me laugh!

I mentioned in my delete that I felt the perplexity in the nations would grow worse before we see our redemption. I do see that passage as a reference to what occurs after the AofD is set up if you compare the sign in the sky with Mark and Matthew's accounts. I think what we are seeing now are the beginning birth pangs spoken of in Mt. 24. We've got to hang on Beloved, I do think the ride is going to get a lot worse...

N said...
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Jim G. said...

Jib and Jim C.

Thanks for the thougtful answers you provided regarding my question on the last post about prophecy in the Psalms and the importance of Is. 17.

Jim C., you wrote:
We know when a Psalm is prophetic (or rather, has an unfulfilled prophecy) when it describes actions or events that have not yet happened, literally, symbolically, or allegorically. In Psalm 83, we know that has not yet happened because it describes a coalition of nations arrayed against Israel that has not yet happened. Vs. 7-9 list them:


I absolutely agree. The only thing that gave me some pause about the prophetic nature of Psalm 83(which I think you cleared up) is that I simply assumed that the nations mentioned had arrayed themselves against Israel based upon the Psalm. I mean, there are many places in Scripture where history is recorded and for years there was no historical evidence for what the Bible says occurred. Then, archeologists discover that what it said was historically accurate based upon new archeological findings. As you know, that happens all the time. So, I guess I'm still kind of wondering at what point do we take a Psalm as prophetic as opposed to historic? Does that make sense. I suppose it can be both (with past history being but a shadow of the ultimate fullfillment yet to come).

The fact that we depend on other Christian brothers and sisters who are Hebrew and Greek scholars and others who understand biblical history and culture I think underlines a fact that the Catholic Church has long said (and I as a Protestant appreciate). That is the fact that we need the Church to understand the Bible. Of course, when I say the Church, I am not referring to just the RCC or any denomination. I'm referring to those who are the Lord's and he knows who we are.

I don't think the Church is more important than the Bible or that the Bible is more important than the Church. We need both and the Holy Spirit is necessary for our participation and life in either His Word or His Body.

Great Grany 5 said...

Nate: I am praying for your situation and I know that God is hearing every petition and supplication being made in your behalf. I have never had a major surgery except for tonsillectomy when I was 2 years old and I must say, have no intention of adding to the list. However, wisdom and peace that can only come from God are required and that is what I am praying for. In addition to your healing, that is.

Need some believers to come into agreement with us.

Grany

jib said...

one must be careful with the Christian Science monitor but this is an interesting perspective
The death of Evangelicalism

regarding the article Mac published-there is a point were death is being prolonged and not life not so easy to find at times. also there are patient's who have sued (successfully I might add) for wrongful life where docs did disregard an advanced directive. the root problem truthfully in cases such ast the one the author mentioned is that are ethics and morality have yet to catch up to our scientific abilities. we can now prolong death. we can now "save" people who not so long ago couldn't be saved. effective nutrition by vein and effective oral tube feedings are extremely recent developments-nutrition by vein was not routinely used until the late 1970's. so 1960's or so we started being able to feed folks via tubes but not effectively like we can today so if you ended up in a persistent vegetative state you died. something to keep in mind.

jib said...

well the link didn't link

Link

jib said...

Nate
make your decision with prayer and talk to other patient's who have undergone both that's about all the advice I can offer

Kathy Hall said...

Nate,

As I told you, my husband had back surgery two years ago. It was very successful for him. I believe it was the same procedure you are being offered. Please feel free to email me and I would be happy to give you our phone number if you'd like to talk to him.

Kathy

donna said...

Nate, I can relate.

I get nervous just getting tests done and assume to hear the worst results, even though I am rarely sick and not on any meds or anything (yet!).

Please know that you will be in our thoughts and prayers....for your healing, peace of mind, decision making, etc.

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Anne, not sure if that was the verse...I thought it stated that the 'sea will rise'...but maybe not...

Marge said...

Nate,
Agreeing with you, in prayer, that God gives you wisdom, knowledge and understanding. And that healing is provided with whatever option you decide.
May God also grant you great shalom.

Moving right along...

I saw this bumper sticker on a truck today, in Puyallup, WA. Funny...and also thought provoking:

Jesus is coming back
Look busy :)

N said...
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jib said...

We Surround them-Will it Launch a Revolution?

From Holland with much courage of conviction and this is just over the right to say what one thinks in Europe-the fall of freedom of religion is not so far behind

Kathy Hall said...

I will be praying Nate. My husband had a remarkable recovery. I will ask the Lord if it pleases Him to allow the very same for you!

Marge, I would love to hear some of our friends here pronounce Puyallup. I bet we'd get all kinds of interesting pronunciations!

Anne said...

Another post at Joel's.

INSIDE THE REVOLUTION: MORE THAN 1,000 SYRIAN LEADERS ATTEND PREMIERE OF “DAMASCUS” FILM

Marge said...

Everyone,
Okay, let's all agree, in prayer, right now, that God opens up all the right doors for Nate's surgery on Thursday. Amen. According to Matt. 18:19, it's a done deal!

God IS good, and good all the time!

Kathy,
I've heard many ways that Puyallup has been mis-pronounced :)
And one of my favorite ways was my Grandfather's, LOL! He was from Missouri, (St. Joseph) and never really got into the Indian names, around here :) It was pretty funny.

It's C-O-L-D, but sunny! Yesterday's snow/hail/rain was kinda fun, wasn't it? EEK!

Looking for some good praise reports, Nate! Expect a miracle! God is still in the miracle working business.

Late Night Lisa said...

Nate,

I asked hubby-and got his 2cents worth. (I don't know if a Neuro is doing the actual sugery or not-he's making an asumption here.)

"I would strongly recommend that his doctor refer him to a Neuro-Surgeon who does backs and see him on an emergency basis for a consultation. Do not let an orthopedic surgeon operate on your back, no matter how long you have known him or how good you think he is.

How bad is his pain? If he is in excruciating pain AND the disc is herniated, not bulging, surgery is a necessity NOW.

Given the latest techniques, he will probably be in the hospital for 3 days, but the recovery time is much improved over years ago , as is the anesthetic hangover.

I would not have the injection done, EVER, by an orthopedic surgeon-he needs a neuro if that is what he wants to do. HOWEVER, if the disc is herniated, and there may be parts of dics in free float in his back or parts of vertebrae that have split or broken, he needs the surgery, a lot. Hope this is of benefit to his decision."

Great Grany 5 said...

Kathy and Marge, just so you know

Poo al up! Now you both try this one:

Tahlequah or here Checotah.

I agree with Marge on the healing of Nate's back and his selection of surgery. Now I am praying for the opening to come SUDDENLY so Nate will not have time to get in a pickle of a stew! God bless you brother and know that God never slumbers or sleeps so there is no sense in you both staying awake. Get some rest and turn it all over to God. Nate you are his servant and God knows how to care for all of us.

Love and blessings,
Grany

Great Grany 5 said...

Like Pooh Bear

Pooh Al up

Great Grany 5 said...

I cheated because I already knew from my brother having been a long term patient at Good Samaritan Rehabilitation Center in 1990. Wonderful hospital and rehab center. Oh, I wish I had known Kathy and Marge then, but it wasn't supposed to be and that is all I will say about it.

Grany

Kathy Hall said...

Well Wilma, us Washingtonians pronounce it pew-al-up. (Like in church pew...) I've heard the correct Indian pronunciation is "pwee-al-up".

Am I right Marge?

And for yours would they be...

Tahlequah=ta-lay-qwa
(short a, long a, short a)

Checotah=cha-ko-ta
(short a, long o, short a)

???

Just think Wilma, we have all of eternity to fellowship!

Kathy Hall said...

that cha should be a chu like in chuck, I think...

Kathy Hall said...

and the ta pronounced as tu would be in tuck...

(I taught History, not English!)

Late Night Lisa said...

Jib,

I read the Evengelical article. If you want the opposite opinion watch today's update from J.R. Church. He's on a roll today.

jib said...

for what it's worth Lisa your husband is making some incorrect assumptions. I have known neurosurgeons I wouldn't let operate on my dog and vice versa with the orthos. what matters is the results each surgeon gets not on the individual specialty. it is a matter of turf wars between the 2 specialties as to who is more qualified. check the docs credentials with the state medical board although ask some of the scrub techs or nurses who they would want to do their surgery and that will give you a pretty decent idea.

as to the injections-my understanding is that properly done they can avoid surgery however I would make for darn sure that the doc had done LOTS of them. and just so you know-there are many interventional radiologists who don't think neuro or ortho should be doing the injections they should be.

jim.carroll said...

Nate, Shalom! Now you're learning the value of what Catholics call "redemptive suffering". By uniting your suffering with the suffering of Christ on the cross, by imitating Jesus through His suffering, you get to experience some of the love Christ has for us in accepting His suffering.

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Great Grany 5 said...

Overcomer,

But we do pronounce "pew" as pooh her in the land of ever loving Okies.

Now for this one Checotah=cha-ko-ta
The c is pronounced like an "s" and the accent is on the cota long o sound.

Tahlequah isn't that far off Tal-a-qua. The difference is due to the different tribes language when they settled in the Indian Territory. Sequoyah was chief who created the alphabet for the Cherokees and the museum is located on a little country road very close to where I live. There is a larger one in another part of Oklahoma but the Sallisaw Creek was the river that they settled along. They are a beautiful and wonderful people and one of the most beautiful renditions of the song "America" is done by a very precious Cherokee lady that lives near by. Makes your heart almost stop and you realize it is being sung from the heart.

The Choctaw Indians dialect and language varies from one family to the next. Or so I am told. I really have to tell you all something that hubby prefers not to own up to. His grandfather was majority Choctaw and was one of the very first medical doctors to come into Indian Territory. He was trained in Georgia and came from Callaway, Georgia on the forced migration that was aptly named "The Trail of Tears". So much history that needs to be retold so our children and grandchildren will know the truth of our freedoms and treaties.

Well, now to catch up with you all again.

Grany

Homeward Bound said...

Marge, thanks for the verse. It had an application for me today.

Nate, you're not a chicken, you're human. It's o.k., and know you have cave-friends lifting you up to the One who has the answers. Will pray for your peace of mind in your decision and for healing for your back.

-HB

GT said...

Nate;
I am joining my prayers with everyone for the peace of Jesus to rule in your heart and a complete healing for you! I have had back problems in the past and know from experience it is not easy.

Maranatha!

Jim G. said...

Nate,

I'm praying for you too, brother.

I had to chuckle though when you said that you are the biggest scaredy cat chicken ever when it comes to anything dealing with doctors and fixing your body and then you said you work in a hospital!

campsmore said...

Kissimmee, Okeechobee, Wakotahatchee!
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Major surgery is a nusance, and a blessing.

I pray that God will give you and your doctors wisdom to decide.
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Addison did well yesterday so he is scheduled to take his pre-test on Friday. From there, he takes the final GED. No classes necessary. He's thrilled about finishing.
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My neck and head is being a pain this morning, I could use some prayer myself.
Thanks

Anne said...

From David Wilkerson's blog today:

Likewise today, when panic strikes in America – when the ominous news begins to send shock waves of fear across the land, and hysteria mounts – God’s people won’t be able to avoid feeling the huge wave of human anxiety. That’s right – I will feel it, you will feel it; all Christians are going to feel it. Such feelings are inevitable; it’s simply human to have this kind of reaction to such terrible chaos. Yet, at the same time, God will put within us the resources needed to take immediate control of every fearful thought and bring it to the truth of Christ. And his Spirit will fill our very beings with his perfect peace

campsmore said...

Glenn Beck is on and he's getting ready to interview Joel Rosenberg in the 10am, EST hour.

jim.carroll said...

Shalom, all. Something to add to the "imminence list":

From Mark Mallett's blog :

AT a recent conference where I was one of the speakers, I opened the floor to questions. A man stood up and asked, "What is this sense of imminence that so many of us feel as though we are "out of time?"" My answer was that I too felt this strange internal alarm. However, I said, the Lord often grants a sense of imminence to actually give us time to prepare in advance.

That said, I believe we truly are on the cusp of major events with global impact. I don’t know for certain... but if I remain on the path that the Lord has placed me since this writing apostolate began, then I believe we are about to see a definitive "breaking of the Seals" of Revelation. Like the Prodigal Son, our civilization, it seems, must come to the point where it is broken, hungry, and on its knees in the pig pen of chaos before our consciences will be ready to see reality — and we realize it is much better to be under our Father’s house.

Jim G. said...

I'm heading to San Francisco today for a work trip. I'm not sure who is paying for the trip. It's paid out of a federal grant to the State of Oregon. So, does that mean you and I are paying for it out of our tax dollars or is it being paid for by a loan from the Chinese who fund our massive spending;-)

On a more serious note, please pray for me as I'm away from my precious wife and son until Saturday evening. Daniel has been a bit out of control lately. The last couple of days he's been extremely energetic and naughty. He's wearing Angie and I won't be around to offer her relief and support. Please pray for both of them, too if you will. Thanks you.

Jim G. said...

Ooops. Meant to say:

"He's wearing Angie out..."

Jim G. said...

Thanks you???

It's still morning in Oregon and I'm already having trouble typing as you can see.

Homeward Bound said...

it ok. blame oogle.

;-)

Homeward Bound said...

ha. It must be related to Grany's missing N.

Anne said...

Only have a sec...

Please pray for me as I drive on some not so good roads today (Minnesota, ya know) and also for some health concerns for my DH, necessitating the drive. I might be able to elaborate later.

jim.carroll said...

Finally, tonight;

Jesus is Everywhere

This video is a little over 6 minutes long.

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Late Night Lisa said...

Vatican-backed conference snubs creationism
The article does mention that not All catholics hold this view.

Late Night Lisa said...

Jim C.

This stuff doesn't bother you-I don't think. Take a look @ the video. It looks like a skinny long bug thing to me. Not exacty what I envision as real but ?

Here’s an interesting video clip of a supposed alien encounter.

"One interesting aspect to the article is that this place, where the film was shot is an area that is considered holy to the Peruvian Catholics. They congregate there and pray for miracles."

campsmore said...

Clinton Hints to Arab Teens PA is Already a Sovereign State

U.S. official: Obama won't cut military aid to Israel

U.S. relationship with Israel leaning leftward

Taliban tells Obama there are no "moderates" in its ranks

US Intelligence Chief: Diplomacy Doubtful Weapon against Iran

UN Confirms Iran Caught Red-Handed in Ship Loaded with Weapons
Iran and Syria were ordered to explain the shipment, but as usual the U.N. has not stated if there will be any punitive action

Russia Reconsidering Missile Deal With Iran

Russia to install 4 floating nuclear plants in northeast Siberia

MEPs see restricted role for future EU president

MEPs agree 'top secret' category for EU documents

EU's Solana says Israel must stick to its word

EU's Solana: Helicopters, Key to Mobility

France to Rejoin NATO Military Command After 43 Years

Netanyahu's vow to Syria: Israel won't provoke war

Former MI head: Assad understands peace deal advantageous for Damascus

Madagascar's defense minister resigns

Palestinians meet in Egypt on Tues. re: unity government

Egypts's Mubarak and Assad push ME peace at Saudi summit in Riyadh

Sandstorm in Sudai shuts down Riyadh "one of the strongest in decades"

Assad: US could mediate Syria-Israel talks Oh no! Please don't meet in FL!

Syria denies Netanyahu ally meeting in US

World Agenda: why Syria key to US hopes of unlocking Middle East

Pope to visit Dome of the Rock

Purim sidenote: The mausoleum housing the shrine of Mordechai and Esther consists of a simple brick structure crowned with a dome which was built some five to seven centuries ago over the underground gravesites. It is located in the northwestern Iranian city of Hamadan, which is about 335 kilometers west of the capital, Tehran. According to tradition, Hamadan is believed to be the site of the city of Shushan, which played such a central role in the events described in the Book of Esther.

Archaeologists discover Byzantine-era church in Jerusalem hills

Alf Cengia said...

Lisa, I'm highly skeptical of that video. A friend told me of a similar one (from South America) relating to the sighting of a Leprechaun or dwarf. It turns out that there are heaps of them and they all have the same MO as the alien one you linked to - a guy in the foreground and something walking around in the sidelines and they are all fuzzy and brief.

Alf Cengia said...

Praying, Jim G, Anne, Nate and Lori.

campsmore said...

I fell asleep during Glenn Beck this morning, so I missed Joel. I just found a way to watch him live online.

If any of you want to watch go to:
Glenn Beck He's on 5pm nightly, EST.

diana said...

Praying for you all too.

Jim C; I find Mark Mallet's blog very interesting. I check back there often after you gave me a link to the luciferian star article. I am so thankful that the Lord is warning us and giving many of us around the world and in different denominations an internal warning and feeling of something big.

I missed Beck's show today (both of them). How did it turn out?

Diana

campsmore said...

Diana,

Glenn was very funny tonight.I didn't get to connect to his show until 20 minutes into it, so I don't know if he had Joel on or not.

He was really sarcastic. He is having a difficult time because he gave us sugar last weekend, so he's going thru withdrawl. Poor Tanya.

He had Danny Whitney on for a few minutes. (Larry the Cable guy)

He's a local from West Palm Beach and an old friend of my bros-in-law. His character was named after my bro-in-law, Larry. No Larry is not the cable guy. He's a welder by trade and wore the cap that Danny made famous. But Larry does talk like Danny's character. Danny doesn't talk like "Larry" in real life. I doubt he'd be recognized if he went out in his real clothes and voice.

Great Grany 5 said...

Just checking in for the day. Hubby and I made our pilgrimage to Ft. Smith today and just got back a few minutes ago. We go by way of interstate 40 and always before it has really been busy after lunch. Today we were amazed that the amount has dwindled and the ones who are driving are doing so at a slower rate. Stores were pretty empty of shoppers today also and this for the middle of the week is a big surprise. You can't help but notice how little is happening in the usual ways of everyday life and how fast everything else has become. Hubby was really a grouch today and finally, I said in a very calm voice, maybe we would feel better if we took a different route. Seems seeing the negative circumstances can cast a real gloom on an otherwise very pretty day.

I say this because I think it is going to become a very hard thing to be cheerful and encouraging in the coming days. We cannot fill our life with gloom and despair so we just as well buckle down and learn to lean on Jesus, right now. Our shoes are all in pretty good shape, our closets probably have more than enough to cover our nakedness and we have food to eat and share. It is easy to check out all of the negative sites on the web, most of the regular ones have been overloaded and we can all let our imaginations run rapidly to folly but is it going to get you through the trials and situations that are real and happening to everyone? Don't overload your plate while you are feasting on the information banquet; lay yourself up a strong supply of God's word or you won't survive.

What if we become so negative that no one will know we are born again believers in Jesus Christ and the Gospel lives in us. You can't have both sweet water and bitter water coming out of your soul.

So, like I told DH, take a different route and chose life and good while you are still able.

Grany

campsmore said...

Grany,

Your words are so true.

When I do those news links I have to keep quoting scriptures. That's how I deal with it. Otherwise, I could get caught up in fear, and that's both a waste of time and energy.

Also on the email flash I send out, I occasionally remind the recipients of God's word and His promises to us.

With things intensifying, I should put a promise in each flash.

We need to keep our eyes on the prize, and not on the bats!

jib said...

poor bats, they are rather friendly sorts

Lori
I had heard from friends that the man who plays Larry the cable guy is a believer-don't know how true that is since I can't seem to find much. I really enjoy watching the blue collar tour when it comes on TV. I will admit that I don't watch the Ron White segments if my son is in the room and sometimes I just skip that part. he has a potty mouth for certain.

supposedly Comedy central is doing one of their roasts of Larry the cable guy-it might be funny to watch except they can get rather raunchy and that gets really old really fast

jib said...

whomever posted the link to Wilkerson's blog-that is exactly how I feel.

Anne said...

Prayers answered, thank you all. Didn't have to take the scary road after all and DH's health issue is very managable and we should see improvement in no time. All glory to our Lord.

Marge said...

Grany,
Amen! Negitive attitudes are a drain on the mind, body and spirit.

If anyone has read any books by, Dr. Daniel G. Amen, this is confirmed by brain imaging. He's asked people to think about everything they hate in their life. (then taken a brain scan) Then he's asked them to think about everything they like about their life. (and taken another brain scan) The difference is amazing!
Of course, the Bible told us this already...as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he."

Anyhow, I've read two of Dr. Amen's books, and I would recommend them to anyone.

1. Change Your Brain, Change Your Life

2. A Magnificient Mind at Any Age.

Good reading!

And keep smiling!

Marge said...

attitudes :)

Kathy Hall said...

I must have missed the original comment but what does DH refer too? I'm guessing Dear Husband?

Alf Cengia said...

Highly recommend listening to this:

Dr. David Hocking & Jacob Prasch - Discuss Israel's Present Travails

donna said...

I knew there was someone here from Oregon! Jim G!

I will be headed there for work for a couple of days...I have never been that far east so it will be fun and interesting, too.

I will also be visiting one of my brothers best friends, (who happens to be Jewish and who I have not seen in over 20 years) and his family so that will be fun.

Any suggestions on what to do in the Portland area, if I have time?

I'd love to drive to the coast but it looks like it might be a bit of a drive and I won't have too much free time.

Anne, great about your husband!

donna said...

Very interesting about the Pope visiting Israel... on the 61st anniversary of Israel becoming a nation, too.

Late Night Lisa said...

Moriel Ministries David Wilkerson's "latest" prophecy This is an opinion of Jacob Prasch & then Paul Mc. Guire. (The one thing I think Prasch misses is that the "30 day" food supply comment was Wilkerson's personal suggestion & not one that came from God.)

Anne said...

Yes, Kathy, DH is Dear Husband. I can't remember how it started, though.

Interestingly, I haven't seen mention of any DW...

hmmmmm....guys?

Alf Cengia said...

DA

Late Night Lisa said...

Pastor Ray Bentley's Devotional today:

Mar 11th 2009 - KNIT TOGETHER
Colossians 2:2-3

Colossians 2:2-3
"...being knit together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."

A favorite talk show host of mine, Dennis Prager, is also a Jewish teacher and philosopher. Recently he said on the air that he didn't believe people were meant to be alone, to tough out life by themselves. As evidence, he cited Genesis, where God takes a look at Adam and pronounces, "It is not good that man should be alone." So God provided Adam with a companion. It is reasonable to assume that God intends for all of us to go through life with companions: spouses, family, and certainly brothers and sisters in the faith. Without these people in our lives, we will never completely understand all that God has for us.

The true depth of understanding comes when our hearts are bound together in love. A mere intellectual understanding of Jesus will not bring a full understanding of the mystery of God, because much of what God desires for us to know—the "hidden treasures of wisdom and knowledge"— comes from the love we give to one another, and the maturing that occurs as we learn to deny ourselves and care for others.

Love teaches us the "riches of understanding." We cannot pursue knowledge of God in willful isolation. A complete understanding of the mystery of God comes with being part of a loving community of believers.

If you are attempting to live your life without fellowship, I encourage you to seek out companions who share your faith, and who can encourage you, love you, and with whom you can share the mysteries and knowledge of God.

jib said...

Mac
LOL

on a more serious note
Reclaiming America personally I think America is unretrievable-and she became so the minute the One was elected into office. one of the folks I work with calls him the Pharoah. for a very irreligious man that is an insightful nickname I think

jib said...

A great teaching on the Millennial Kingdom

Scott Robinson said...

Great Grany,

Great words. We must remember we have been appointed for such a time as this. When God asks us are we ready to do His work? I want to say Yes, Lord use me in spite of myself...what a priviledge to live in these times, the times that so many before us have studied, prayed for, and longed for in their generation. Now to walk beside Him or for Him and do His calling at the culmination of all these events that we can almost feel at our finger tips......even if we mess it up, He will use us in spite of ourselves.
We just need to remember to let go of us(our fears) so we can let Him go IN us. And of course to Pray, Pray, Pray. Pray for ourselves and our families and of course our cave-family here.(I'm not saying it will be a cake-walk but prayer is a mighty sword and there is a reason why it should be done without ceasing)

Nate, we are praying for your medical situation. Keep looking for a way God can use you through all of this.....there is an opportunity in every situation.

PS..Great Grany..We are bummed out to cancel our camping trip to Devil's Den for the latter part of this week. The weather was to cold and looked to be too wet for tent camping. We will try again in May:(

Jib-cool pop-up camp thing-a-ma-jig,thanks

Next-Buy in bulk to share with neighbors(BIB)

Fighting the Good Fight,

Jenny

PSS- Iranian govt. added the tumb of Mordechai and Esther to its National Heritage list making it Federally protected according to Raider News outlet.....makes you kind-of scratch your head on why????--Jim C any ideas on why?

Alf Cengia said...

DF?

Scott Robinson said...

oops...that was supposed to be tomb not tumb

Anne said...

funny, Mac, but I think I like DA better.

donna said...

DA? DF?
I'm a bit slow...I have no clue what that could be referring to!
Give me/us a hint!

jib said...

so do I Mac

Donna
DA is Dear Alesia and DF dear friend

Alf Cengia said...

You got one right.

Late Night Lisa said...

What's LOL

Lots of Love?

Anne said...

OK, Mac, my imagination is racing! Are you going to spill some beans or let us just come to our own conclusions, in which case I will change my mind and like DF better!

Or, should I keep my mouth shut?

;)

jib said...

you didn't!!!!! congrats!


DF if OH how are you doing post surgery? did you ever get feeling back and has the pain gone away?

Great Grany 5 said...

Mac, "ring around the rosie, pockets full of posies,?"

Grany

Anne said...

Well, Dear Friends, I will have to check in first thing in the morning. It's past my bedtime. Goodnight all, and G'day, Mac (and anyone else in far away time zones)

Anonymous said...

This was sent to me by Children of the Holocaust Survivors Los Angeles

Obama: Pro-Israel talk, anti-Israel walk

By Adam Hasner

Barely a month into the presidency of Barack Obama, a profound realization is spreading among the pro-Israel community: we do not have an ally in the White House. The growing threat that Israel and the Jewish People now face demands an immediate acceptance of the "facts on the ground" regarding President Obama's perspective and agenda, and decisive action to prevent the frightening reality that he may play a leading role in creating.

So how exactly did this get by most Jewish voters during last year's election? While some, including this author, warned of his dubious associations and likely course of action regarding Israel, Obama brilliantly pandered to Jewish crowds around the country with his scripted and amorphous proclamations of support for Israel, while utilizing an array of prominent Jewish surrogates in order to avoid any real accountability.

Under the new Obama administration, our federal government is now beginning to comfortably operate within the realm of the anti-Israel perspective espoused by the likes of Mearsheimer and Walt, who argue that the political clout of American Jews is used to manipulate U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel at the expense of broader American interests. On one hand, President Obama receives advice on Israel, Iran and the entire Middle East from advisors such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samantha Power, and Chas Freeman, all of whom possess strong anti-Israel biases that are well documented. Freeman, whose nomination to a top intelligence post faces growing criticism, was quoted as saying "the primary reason America confronts a terrorism problem today... is the brutal oppression of the Palestinians by an Israeli occupation." As if that were not bad enough, even Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is apparently now joining the fray with her recent remarks intended to unduly pressure Israel.

On the other hand, there is also a faction of prominent Jewish politicians who don't seem willing to speak out against the President's judgment or the actions we are now witnessing. While allowing President Obama to tout their Jewish identities for political gain, these politicians are also helping the Administration to confer mainstream status and legitimacy upon treacherous new Jewish agencies like J-Street, whose vision for Israel more readily identifies with that of her enemies. Combined, the forces at work within the Executive branch are helping to create conditions that will allow President Obama to force dangerous concessions upon Israel.

The policies put forth by President Obama during his first 30days in office paint a disturbing picture as well. In light of his first Presidential news interview having been granted to the Al-Arabia television network, his first head-of-state phone call placed to Mahmoud Abbas, and his allocation of $20 million dollars of taxpayer money to resettling Palestinians with ties to Hamas in the United States, what we have witnessed is a clear pattern of taking the pressure off terrorist groups, the Islamist regimes that support them and other tyrants who hate Israel and America in favor of offering them legitimacy and leniency. The growing danger of the Iranians and their nuclear weapons program, along with the network of villains they are organizing and arming, are without a doubt today's greatest threat to America, Israel and the Western World. As President Obama offers the Iranians more time, despite plenty of credible evidence that their nuclear weapons program is speeding ahead, he is also granting a reprieve to their vicious surrogates. For example, numerous overtures and contacts are taking place between the Administration and the Al-Assad regime, less than a year and a half after Israel was forced to destroy Syria's secret nuclear reactor facility built by the North Koreans.

Another Iranian proxy, the Hamas terror organization, is also benefiting from President Obama's appeasement and accommodation. Special Middle-East Envoy George Mitchell recently signaled U.S. approval for Hamas to join in governing the Palestinian Authority. That is in addition to the $900 million in U.S. taxpayer money that will shortly be gifted to Hamas-controlled Gaza for "aid," which will only help to ensure that the terrorists need not spend their own money on anything other than arms and death. Once Hamas is finally legitimized, which now appears to be likely, one can only imagine how their international acceptance will adversely impact the prospect of peace.

Anti-Israelism and other forms of latent anti-Semitism have also received a boost from President Obama's initial decision to send a delegation to the negotiation sessions of the upcoming Durban II conference. The U.S. representatives' silence in the face of repeated attempts to demonize Israel and vilify Zionism did plenty to gratify the gathering of wolves, before the President ultimately realized that America's presence was making things worse rather than better. The damage has been done however, and while the U.S. has indicated after the fact that it likely will not participate in the plenary session, many nations that would have otherwise followed the U.S. in boycotting Durban II will now be lending their credence. Israel's supporters must understand that this set of circumstances significantly helps our enemies' effort to delegitimize Israel's right to exist by harkening back to the "Zionism is racism" days of U.N. Resolution 3379.

In looking squarely ahead to the grave challenges we face on the horizon, it is important to keep in mind that we are still early in the new President's term, and that there are a variety of ways to demand action on the promises we were assured of during his campaign. To begin, we must call upon pro-Israel Congressional leaders and Jewish activists - those who supported President Obama and those who didn't - to hold him to his word and protect the America-Israel relationship. We cannot afford to be passive in performing this task. Where there is inaction or resistance, we must withhold all support from politicians who won't stand up to the Administration's harmful policies. The solemn oath of "Never Again" must not be forgotten in our time.

Florida State Representative Adam Hasner (R-Boca Raton) is the Majority Leader of the Florida House of Representatives. He served as the Jewish Outreach Chairman in Florida for McCain/Palin during the 2008 election. He can be reached at adamhasner@hasner.org.

Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03

PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM

jim.carroll said...

Lisa, Shalom! If that creature shown in the video is real, I don't see how it can be intelligent. You're right -- it looks like a long skinny bug. The reason the area is "considered holy to the Peruvian Catholics" is that it's the birth and burial place of St. Rose of Lima. St. Rose was the Mother Theresa of her day (back in the 1600s). She is one of the Incorruptibles -- 400 years after her death her body still shows no signs of decay.

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Kathy Hall said...

A DF shared this with me about how to love our DHs. I think all you gals will love it.

Us DWs should "Follow, Finish, and Fan" our DHs.

Follow is to submit to their leadership.

Finish is to complete them. We are their helpmeet. To complete them (and this may be a hard one for some of us but we should do it!) is to quietly and without complaining pick their dirty clothes up off the floor and place them in the laundry ourselves.

Fan is that we let others know that we are our DHs biggest fans.

If we do that, we will be DWs to them for sure! (And I think the Lord would be pleased with us too.)

Good Night DFs!

jib said...

or are you in OH???? inquiring minds want to know

jim.carroll said...

Lisa -- LOL = "Laugh Out Loud" or "Lots Of Laughter."

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jib said...

Islamic training camps here in the US

did anyone else see or post this???

jim.carroll said...

Scott, not a clue why Iran would add that tomb to their protected sites list. It could be from seeing what's happened to a lot of the historical sites in Iraq. For example, just outside of Mosul is the ancient city of Nineveh, which has seen a lot of random destruction since the fall of Saddam, including several historically important early Christian churches.

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jim.carroll said...

Joel was on Glenn's radio show -- can't remember anything exceptional about what Joel said. He wasn't on Glenn's TV show but I think he's supposed to be on tomorrow night.

Anyone else here bought Joel's book yet? I went and bought it the day it came out.

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Anne said...

Joel has a new post:

SHOULD WE LET IRAN GO NUCLEAR?: Incredibly, a growing chorus of “experts” says yes

Jim C, I think I will buy it this weekend. Did you read it yet? Does it tell us anything we don't already know?

jim.carroll said...

Anne, Shalom! I'm working my way through the book. One thing you may not know: the book is HUGE: over 500 pages. This is not going to be the quick read Epicenter was. Also, one thing I remember from yesterday's radio show, is that while there may be millions of Muslims that have left Islam, not all of them have become Christian. They're more what we would call "unchurched."

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Alesia said...

Jib - thanks for asking. I'm back about 98.5%. Still a little pain & still no feeling in my chin or lower lip - doc doesn't think that's going to come back. Long recovery & takes some getting used to having a titanium plate in your face - oye.
And, yep, still in OH

Nate - feel your angst about being a chicken, been there, done that. Been praying for you.

Kathy - I seriously hope your DF's are not the same meaning as Mac's DF or you got sum 'splaining to do to your DH! ;-)

Oh & did you get those quotes from "Created to be His Help Meet" by Debi Pearl?
I've not yet read the highly recommended book, but plan to soon.

Kathy Hall said...

Alesia,

Made me smile.

No, I got those quotes from a dear friend who is a biblical counselor to women. Perhaps she got them from this other gal. I will have to ask her.

jib said...

so when's the big day?

on a different track
Beck Radio transcript with Joel

Jim C
still working on getting that book. about ready to buy online. no real bookstore around here and have to rely on wally world and target. tried looking for it at sams' club but no dice and didn't have time to go to the bookstore near Sam's. have a couple of other books I can't seem to find in the bookstore either so I see a big order on line.

jib said...

even when confronted by they way God blesses people with faith in God they still can't call it what it is-God working.

Faith in God helps survivor types

Great Grany 5 said...

Alesia, Oh, it is so good to hear from you. Didn't know about the new plate you have acquired and when I read it, I actually hurt for you. My prayers will stay with you until this ordeal is over and even beyond. In fact, if I should get a head start on all of you guys, I will start getting the Cafe ready and a pot brewing for coffee. But during that time, my prayers offered up for you all while I was sojourning here, will still be lifting up before the throne of Abba. I really do want to go in the "Suddenly" group but if that doesn't work out, see you up there and get ready to shout.

Now, the mess about Israel and the USA doesn't really surprise me in the least. The Age is closing for us. As the Church, God is getting the actors on the stage for the coming of Darkness and men/women with a reprobate heart are being allowed one more chance to turn around from evil. When they don't and they won't, then God will allow them to be turned over to a delusional mind. We know from scripture that is one of the signs of the time.

As believers in Jesus Christ and Him, the Son of God, we are assigned the responsibility to share, care and pray. Wonder what choices we are putting in place of those assignments? We are to love one another as Christ loves us, and our neighbors as ourselves. I honestly don't know why our prayers regarding the world selection of leaders were not answered but maybe they were when we prayed in God's perfect will. THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

Shalom
Grany

campsmore said...

Alesia, I don't have titanium in my face, but I've had numbness since 1989 in my lip and chin.

The doctor who took out my wisdom teeth told me quickly as I left the room, "OH, by the way, the roots were wrapped around the nerves and I had to break the roots to get the teeth out. So you'll be numb for a while, it could be a week, a month, a year or forever."

Well, it's been a long time, but I've gotten used to it.

Sometimes when I'm drinking something warm, it feels like I have liquid running down my chin, so I wipe, wipe, wipe. At other times I don't feel it, so I wipe anyway just in case. More than not, it's running down my chin.

I think every case of numbness is different, but it's doable.

Still waiting for that glorified body!

Do I hear bells?

jib said...

The "acmetal" a one world currency idea

Artificial life within 5 years" from one of the statements in the article one could speculate that this will be what causes one of the pandemics which will kill large portions of the world or perhaps even fittingly enough the sores that start when folks take the mark.

Go Sheriff Joe Sheriff Joe under investigation for actually enforcing the law of the land

Late Night Lisa said...

Jib,

To us Conspiracy hunters it's old news. There have been some UTUBE videos about it posted here but the one you found has a much more "official" news worthy look to it.

Unbelievable, isn't it? Constitution or not-I still don't comprehend how our Govt. would allow such an activity & turn a blind eye to it.

It just goes to show how Satan is allowed to run the show & keeps these "elite" so focused on their own personal greedy & selfish agendas that honestly they don't really care one way or another about this country & their fellowman.

jib said...

Judge orders homeschooled children into public schools despite superior testing scores the bottom line is this is a divorce case gone bad but still the judge has ordered the christian mom to undergo psychiatric testing and the children into public schools

Great Grany 5 said...

Ring, a ding, ring a ling, Alesia is ecstatic and needs not a thing!

Now you know why they don't call me a poet.

Me bouncing off of the walls with happiness! Oh, I love love!

LORI, I think sometimes my lip has a leak in it and I a good reason either, except I get thirsty and I get careless. Me messy! Not all of the time but I have found out a new reason for God's design of women's bodies. Everything lands where we can see it and get rid of the evidence.

I certainly hope I can access my email account today. I got on for just a few minutes yesterday and then, zip, it was gone. The tech's are supposed to come out today because it has to be in our internet connection. I am having some of the same thing just getting on the web but it could also be that Trend Micro is blocking some of the sites due to crooks posing a problem on the web sites.

Don't know but if it turns out to be the DD's then they are in big time trouble. And you don't want to know what the DD stands for. Let your imagination run wild for awhile.

Grany

jim.carroll said...

Shalom, all! Last night on Catholic Answers Forum one of the people had something weird happen -- two separate purchases at two different places both had the same total: $16.09. She wondered if there was any scriptural significance to it, but didn't know which book it might refer to. So I rolled up my sleeve, spit on my palms (then washed my hands, because I really don't want to get spit on the keyboard), and did some research.

What I found is really too long and too formatted to copy here, so here are the links to the messages. The post was too long to fit in one message so I had to split it in two:

Chapter 16, verse 9 Part I

Chapter 16, verse 9 Part II

Like I said in the message, these are NOT happy verses!

Look Up Fellowship's message for today is very powerful. What's even more powerful is a comment to the message, where the writer was led to read Jeremiah 18. Again, not a happy message.

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P.S. Grany, DD = Dear Dragon?

jib said...

Lisa

not entirely sure which article you were referring to but if it was the Islamic camps not entirely sure why conspiracy theorists would especially care about those. unless one is going to take the line that Bush was actually the planner of 9/11

Great Grany 5 said...

JIB, I can hardly wait until Supreme Ruler BHO starts getting trashed and revealed for all that he really is and not what people think he is. Oh, happy Day, Oh, Happy Daaaayyyy! The thing I keep responding with when I get to converse with a DLD (if one can call it a conversation) is just this simple little statement: His determination to keep you safe right along with me, was very effective, don't you think! I don't really put it as a question and then before they can think up the next lie, I bless them. Not as the world blesses them but in blessing I turn them back to the crap they belong to. I really don't have much time for stupidity and fantasy so it is easy for me to do it. Yeah, I care about their souls more than they do, but when you hear the Holy Spirit tell you to shake the dust off of your feet, and don't turn back-- I take it very seriously.

Chasing fairy tales isn't one of my character faults. I guess I am a Joe Friday, "Just the facts, Mam".

Got to go now, my tech rescue team is here and I gotta turn my pet over to them.

Grany

Late Night Lisa said...

That was the article.

The Bush 9/11 info I would classify under a real "Conspiracy Theory" @ this point but there are many things also shoved into that title.

When the Govt./Elite doesn’t want the general populace to know about or be concerned w/something they use the same tactics that even Hitler employed. It's been researched & proven to work-so why not? I just read there is an actual book written on the subject & that some people in positions of power admire & use some of these strategies. (I should have written down the name of the book. I ran across it when I was researching Obama. I think I did post the article here about 2 mo. ago?)

Their big weapons are to counter act with disinformation & attempts to discredit those speaking out.

A classic example although not considered a "Conspiracy" theory is Evolution vs. Creationism. You can see the tone & what they do to discredit the Intelligent Design supporters.

Actual examples are UFO/Illuminati material. All you have to do is follow what happens when a person speaks out. They actually plant nut cases & distractions to discredit credible people who are trying to get the word out.

Those US terrorist training camps have been listed on UTUBE with the
other military "camps" (some would also label conspiracy theory)which are being converted to handle large populations of people.

If you tell most people about these things what do they do? Shrug it off as oh well, if it's not affecting me now then why be concerned about it? Then they try to rationalize it by just chalking you up to being a "fringe" type of person & off to life as usual.

It's comforting to know that at least there are some people in the News industry that are capable of getting the word out but then what?
Does anything really come about it?

The superpower media just tamps it down under Britney Spears or ME news.

campsmore said...

I forgot to mention... I came into our family room to spend time with the Lord as I always do early in the morning. There on the table was my son's book, Skin, by Ted Dekker, but the only part showing was the bottom where it says, "don't trust your eyes."

I was going to read my Bible and saw it was already opened to where the 3 year old neighbor flipped it open yesterday.

I decided to read where it was opened. There was John 20 & 21 telling the story about Jesus's ressurection and the disciples' reactions.

One thing I noticed in John 21 is that when Jesus told the disciples to throw the net on the other side, they didn't know who he was, except for "the disciple whom Jesus loved."

John 20:7 says, "Then the disciple whome Jesus loved said to Peter, That is our Lord...."

IF we study the disciple whom the "Lord loved," we find he:
-leaned on Jesus (13:23/21:20)
-outran the others to look for Jesus(20:4)
-recognized Jesus first (21:7)
-blindly followed/trusted Jesus
(21:20).

That disciple is a good example for us to follow.

Maybe the words which he spoke to his other disciples was a prophecy for us, his church.

Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?"

campsmore said...

Ooops! I missed the point of the whole story!

Even though Jesus didn't look like himself any longer, the disciple recognized Him because he knew Him.

He didn't trust his eyes.

campsmore said...

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Can you use Pillsbury products on this page?

You could win One Million dollars.

Just think how you could further the kingdom with that cabbush!

I'm in, I'll make something up if I have to!

diana said...

Lori,
I also have numbness on my lower lip and chin. I was laughing as I read about that cause I do the same thing. Always wiping my mouth and chin to make sure I don't have anything running down! I had jaw surgery when I was a teen due to an overbite.

I enjoyed reading your testimony of your time in the word and with the Lord from early this morning.

I wanted to share a little of what is going on with my 12 year old daughter. Her class is studying religion in social studies. Her homework last night was to write facts about Muhommad on a pentagon shape along with a symbol of the religion. She has been blessed with spiritual discernment for a young child. She does not like studying about the other religions and having her Christian faith lumped in the same catagory as other religions because she says it is not a religion but her life! She is greatly bothered by having to write about Muhommad and I have educated her much further of course on the man he really was and what Islam really is. She has refused to make their symbol on her paper and does not want to offend the Lord. I have written her teacher and asked about the assignment and if we would soon see her writing about Jesus. I have not heard back from the teacher yet. We live in a small town in the midwest. We do not even have any Muslims here that I know of. There are many though in the neighboring university town. Anyway, I sure am happy that we have these talks together and that she doea not want to offend her Lord in anyway by studying Islam. It bothers her to even look at the crescent moon and star! Bless that child! Her name is Victoria if any of you are so inclined to pray for her spiritual protection right now.

Wow, what a powerful message David Wilkerson preached that was posted at the Look Up Fellowship site today. Wish I had a church to go to that had a preacher who preaches the truth like him!

Have a great rest of the day everyone and see all of you soon!
Diana

Late Night Lisa said...

Strom sent this link out today regarding what Todd Bentley is now up to. The Tragic Scandal of Greasy Grace (Please don't tell me he's going to step right back into his old shenanigans soon. Once was more than enough.)

Late Night Lisa said...

Diana,

Hey, this is a great opportunity for her to educate her teacher about Islam & Mohammad from a Christian & historical standpoint.

She can describe what the Pentagon & Crescent symbol really mean & where they initially came from. Then how Mohammed was physically & emotionally attacked by a demonic spirit in the cave & how even his own people initially thought he was possessed!

So turn it around-there is nothing for her to fear-remember God can take perceived negative situations & turn them around for His glory.

He is the Alpha & Omega, the First & the Last. We are His children of light which in Him no darkness can overtake us. I wouldn't think drawing the symbols would upset God if presented in truth. (It's not as if she expected to bow down to them or something.)

**Of course we should be prepared to receive persecution & flack whenever the truth is presented & not hidden under the guise or Political Correctness. This is a great lesson for your dear daughter & I’m sure the Lord will be pleased as she (& you) overcomes this adversity.

Let the light of the Lord blind their eyes out!

diana said...

Hey Lisa,
Yea, I agree with you on all points. I received an e-mail from her teacher and she told me that she really did not know much about Islam and she was learning right along with the kids. I offered her a few of my books on the subject and since she says she is a Christian I told her it was important to look at the religion through the eyes of scripture. I am praying that she takes me up on the offer of borrowing my books.
I'll let you know what happens. She is a woman younger than myself and I do not know how grounded she is in the faith. I sure would like to find out!

Diana

Late Night Lisa said...

Has anyone here heard a "Mystery Boom"? There were some comments on another blog of people who experienced it.

Another mystery boom wakes people in region Interesting comments to the article.

campsmore said...

Iran ready to "aid" Afghanistan

'Iran seeking to purchase banned carbon fiber'

Exorcising Turkey's Islamic imps the weirdest article this year

Turkey in the fire

North Korea gives rocket launch date

Australia threatens 'Durban II' boycott

Nobel Prize winner backs one world currency

Prince Charles: World must act now to save planet

No more hiding your money in Liechtenstein!

Many EU troops to join UN Chad peacekeepers

EU Pres calls Middle East meeting in Brussels

UN's AoCistanbul.org goes live

Slovenian FM says no EU talks for Croatia if not deal

Georgia ready to welcome American military base if US requests

Senate Moves Toward Ratification of U.N.'s 'Law of the Sea Treaty' "..critics warn could create a massive U.N. bureaucracy that could even claim powers over American waterways."

Our Friends the Russians? President Obama will find it a one-sided relationship.

Iran missile, nuclear threat 'real, dangerous' - Russian analyst

No more hiding your money in Liechtenstein

Economic retreat is worst since 1948, says Bank of Israel

Sovereignty in Israel

Mubarak in Jordan to update King Abdullah on meeting w/Assad sandstorm to follow

NC Homeschoolers ordered into public classrooms

Scott Robinson said...

Late Night Lisa,

That is very odd..... about a week or two ago there was the same occurance on the East Coast in Hunnington Beach, CA area. The police dept. received about 70 calls because people thought someone was breaking in or the entire neighborhood of dogs was barking, etc. There was no readings of earthquakes in the area and residents were wondering if it was a sonic boom of some sort. I'm surprised more are not blaming it on aliens or ufo stuff. I wonder if it is near misses of terrorist activity of some sort, that has been averted.
I think this is very curious indeed.

I will research this....let me know if you hear about it happening anywhere else.

Thanks,
Jenny

Scott Robinson said...

FYI--
OK, when I went to look up the sonic boom in Hunnington Beach I found out it was spelled Huntington Beach. Fox ran an article on it but residents discuss it on a local forum also.

jenny

jim.carroll said...

Shalom, all! I ran across this when I was looking up Jeremiah 20:11. (I couldn't remember the citation, so I had to Google it.) It's something to keep in mind in these days:

The Twelve Promises Of God To Prosper You 9/9/07

From Godswill N. Keenam; WWW.COMI-NH.COM (http://www.comi-nh.com/)

1. The Lord will cause you to abound in prosperity: Deut. 28:11

2. The Lord will open His Storehouse and bless all the work of your hands: Deut.28: 12

3. The Lord will command His blessings upon your finances and all that you do: Deut 28:8

4. The Lord will bless you with an abundance: Proverbs 3:9-10

5. God's blessing will enable you to enjoy true riches: Proverbs 10:22

6. God plans for you to be prosperous and successful: Joshua 1:8

7. God will throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out such a blessing you will not be able to contain it: Malachi 3:10

8. God plans for you to prosper in everything you do: Psalm 1:1-3

9. God plans for you to prosper in every way: 3 John 2

10. God plans for you to have His continual provision and total supply: 2 Cor. 9:8-10

11. God plans for you to receive blessing that will run over you: Luke 6:38

12. God plans for you to have a liberal supply: Philippians 4:19

Mr Hyde said...

New post is up.

campsmore said...

Addison is currently taking his pretest for the GED. Please pray again. WE are so appreciative for taking time to do this.