Two are better than one because they have a good return for their labor. For if either of them falls, the one will lift up his companion. But woe to the one who falls when there is not another to lift him up.
Ecclesiastes 4:9-10
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Thank you all so much for the kind words & blessings!
It means the world to us, coming from our dear friends, from where we met. :)
Atta boy, Jim C.!
Harold - Congrats!!! awww, a baby girl, nothing's sweeter. Enjoy every second.
Lisa, if it puts your mind at ease, the horse accident happened when one horse rubbed its head against the other's, and wound up rubbing horse #2's bridle off. I doubt it's the kind of thing that would or even could happen at your daughter's horse camp.
Of course, if this DOESN'T put your mind at ease, just forget I ever wrote anything. Hey, look at the butterfly! ...
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Good to see Alesia is still perking. I have thought of you two so very much, just like everyone else here. Have a great and wonderful life together and let the love grow by t he hour.
JIM C. that article you linked us to about the gulf of Mexico by Geologist Reed was really interesting. Even got hubby to interact regarding his theory. When it comes to that topic, DJH doesn't like to get too involved. Said it makes his worry registry overload.
I do think now that you are on the right track on the subject of the New Madrid Fault. Many reasons why and it does have the possibility of involving all of us. We'll know when it blows, won't we!
Take care everyone.
Perfect post for "the occasion!"
News is up
ha we should have had estimates when a new post would be put up
and I agree-perfect post for the occasion!
btw DH's cousin's son got off with a broken finger and sore back only after being bucked off the horse
some great articles on American Thinker today
What BOO doesn't understand about Zionism
The Dinner Jacket is going to rescue Americans from the dictator BOO this one is stunningly something I'm not entirely sure what.
A different perspective on the Gulf Oil Spill
Link #14 Mayor bans prayer, pants fall down while speaking
"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking like a fool with your pants on the ground."
Day #1- Survived Horse Camp w/o incident.Other than this smarty pants girl saying "BYE BYE" w/a grin as she passed Lorraine on her horse. (Lorraine's horse wouldn't budge & was being stubborn as a Mule.)The stories I hear from these young girls interacting are really something. Quite caddy! (There are eleven in this group.)
This was a really good one from Perry Stone: Old Testament Proof of the Coming of Christ
Not a bad teaching by Perry Stone, Lisa.
Anyone read this one before? Heavy duty! I Saw The Tribulation (Ken Peters Prophecy)
Jib, I wondered what you thought about this report: At least 4 dead in last 10 days after swimming at Gulf beaches.
My niece worked for a man and his wife from Israel, Itimar and Natti. They are in their early 40s.
Monday Natti had a headache (she's had them a long time). Itimar told her he'd take her to the hospital. In the few minutes it took him to get ready, Natti became unconcious and has been ever since.
The doctors said that Natti had a stroke. She's still unconcious, and the docs are saying it's day to day.
Anyone who knows Candice knows it must be critical for her to reach out to a prayer chain, but she truly does believe in God's awesome power. It will give their family comfort and strength knowing that we are joining in prayer and lifting Natti to Him.
How does God show himself to you?
To the faithful you show yourself faithful; to those with integrity you show integrity. To the pure you show yourself pure, but to the wicked you show yourself hostile. You rescue those who are humble.…As for God, his way is perfect. All the Lord's promises prove true.… Psalm 18:25-27,30 NLT
Faithful and dependable
A hot morning shower, a fresh cup of coffee. The lights in your kitchen and bathroom. What would you do if you were deprived of the basics of your dependable morning routine? Many of us would start shutting down. It's easy to take hot water and electricity for granted. The same is true of faithful love. It's easy to take for granted the person who is always there to listen to your problems. It's easy to take for granted the person you run to when you're frustrated or in trouble. It's even easier to take for granted God's faithful care for you and your family. Every day God sustains the world in which we move and live. He provides food, clothing, and opportunities for employment. Most important, he showers love and concern on us every day. Our God is a faithful God. He is entirely dependable.
That same type of faithful and dependable love is the foundation of every strong relationship. Love is cheap if it's given only when things are going fine. Our love for others must be consistent and dependable.
Whew, roll on winter!!!
Today I saw another Muslim woman wearing a Burqa @ Costco in our one horse town.
This is the strangest thing ever. I have NEVER seen this before now.
Her get-up didn't have the black screen mesh over the face but she was in all jet black w/just eye slits.
I have TRUELY entered the Twilight Zone..........
Lisa, if this dress is acceptable across our country, at some point, we might have the same problem as France... terrorists dressing in burqas.
Eric Douma (Twin City Fellowship) has some really good teachings on eschatology HERE.
Well it looks like we found a house we can call home. Should be able to move in sometime September.
Congratulations on the home!
LISA,
In our neighboring city of Ft. Smith, we see quite a few of the Muslim women out shopping in various businesses and all are wearing the burqas. Some are rather serious looking but most are moderate. No one seems to pay much attention to them and there have been a few times when the women have been rude, cutting in front of any of us. But, seeing the drama that they live in, just extending a bit of grace, seems rather a small price to pay. One of the ladies in particular now knows me by my name (had a name tag on one day) and she was really excited to show me her new grand baby. Even allowed me to hold her. I know her name also and she is on my prayer list. God loves them also.
Romans 8
18 I consider that the sufferings of this present time are as nothing compared with the glory to be revealed for us.
19 For creation awaits with eager expectation the revelation of the children of God;
20 for creation was made subject to futility, not of its own accord but because of the one who subjected it, in hope
21 that creation itself would be set free from slavery to corruption and share in the glorious freedom of the children of God.
Mac & Alesia,
So happy to hear that the housing plans are unfolding smoothly! Both of our houses turned out to be bigger blessings than we could have imagined/planned, and I'm sure you'll find the same to be true for you as well. God is really, really good!
Blessings,
Jen
"God is really, really good!"
Yes He is. I've sensed His hand in our lives many times. He is working on our faith.
Thanks, Jen!
BTW, my email has changed to...
amcengia@gmail.com
My apologies to those who may have tried to contact me on an old one.
You guys have got to read what is happening in my homowtown University of Illinois. This is so disturbing! I and many others here are livid! Sorry, still don't know how to make a link! hope this works
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/university-illinois/2010-07-09/instructor-catholicism-ui-claims-loss-job-violates-academic-free
Praise GOD!! for all the great news I have read happening on this blog in just the past week!
A very sincere hug and congrats to Mac & Alesia! I am so happy for you two and your new life together! Would LOVE to see a photo sometime! :) Anyways, may our Father continue to bless you and your marriage!
Love Judy
Thanks Judy and also Jim G from earlier.
Diana, Alesia and I were just talking about that. Also someone was prevented from using the name Jesus in a public prayer.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/pastor-yanked-capitol-jesus-prayer/?test=latestnews
May the Lord come soon!!!
People Get Ready
July 07, 2010 - Ray Interviews Mark BiltzMaranatha Chapel
Here is one Mark mentioned:
God’s real meaning of the word Shalom/True Peace.
In the ancient picture language it says:
Destroy
Authority
Attached
To Chaos
(Which reminded me of the Illuminiti motto of those in authority which look to: “Out of Chaos=Order”)
Hi everyone,
Need prayer please. I have had some symptoms that my doctor has yet to diagnose. He said to call him in two weeks(two weeks ago) if the symptoms do not go away. He thought that I may have a virus. I had severe vertigo about a month ago (had to go to ER since I had never experienced it before!)pain in arms and legs (it comes and goes; burning pain or constant ache), muscle twitches, spasms and cramps in legs, sometimes muscle twitches in arms and a few other places too. One day I will fell ok but then later in the eveing I will ahce and have horrible legs muscle spasms. Last evening was a bad one after a lovely day at the park with the kids. I guess I just really need to know what is going on, and to see a good doctor. I know it looks like MS but perhaps is somehting else. Doc did a bunch of blood work and said everything is normal there.
Please pray for an answer!
Thanks you so much
Diana
Oh, and I was fired from a job that I had just started the month prior due to missing too many days after the vertigo incident which had left me fatigued for days after!
And so it begins...
University of Illinois Instructor Fired Over Catholic Beliefs
URBANA, Ill. -- The University of Illinois has fired an adjunct professor who taught courses on Catholicism after a student accused the instructor of engaging in hate speech by saying he agrees with the church's teaching
that homosexual sex is immoral.
The professor, Ken Howell of Champaign, said his firing violates his academic freedom. He also lost his job at an on-campus Catholic center.
He lost his job at the Catholic center because that position requires that the person be a University employee.
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Diana,
Praying for your return to good health and no dizziness of any kind.
We just returned from a long trip to Ft. Smith so hubby could attend a business friend's retirement celebration. Hubby was really feeling old at 82 plus a few months but this friend is at least 1 1/2 years old than DJH and just now hanging up the shingle to enjoy some recreation. DJH came home feeling a whole lot younger this evening. Anything to make a transition possible.
I received a letter from the Kenneth Copeland Ministries today and Ft. Worth is declaring itself open and friendly to the homosexual elements no matter what direction they go, just as long as they aren't Christian and Straight. The Ministry has asked that we all be praying and also, contacting the Ft. Worth city government to voice our lack of support for this move. As far as I know, no one has ever mistreated these individuals and why in world are they separating them out for special consideration? It has to do with MONEY! and lots of it. Of course, BOO HOO gets most of the credit but people, the Days of Noah are here but then so are the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. If I was sitting that close to the Gulf of Mexico and the situation as it now stands, I would be calling on all of the Christians and Jews to intercede for Texas and especially their locale.
Do you feel the hairs on your head getting higher and higher? I do!
Grany
Whaaat? Has anyone heard about this guy?
Jesus’s Second Coming? – BP Gulf Attack by Lucifer Against America 9 clips- Queen May Be Stepping Down
It is reported by those close to her, that Queen Elizabeth II, will make a public statement in the coming weeks, announcing her decision to step down from the Throne of England.
Sources say her decision comes after learning that THE ONE WHOSE RIGHT IT IS TO RULE AND REIGN has made His presence known to her.
It is reported that she is in receipt of a Declaration and Notice of Claim to the Throne of England from Australian born Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall.
Apparently the Queen’s advisors have confirmed to her that Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall is the direct genetic descendant of the King of Judah, King David through the Royal bloodline of his parents Daphne Golightly and Reginald Marshall.
LIsa, it's going to take me a while to find out about this guy... one website led to another, which led to another, which is a forum discussing Operation Deep Sleep, which linked to yet another with Nat'l Weather Service showing some circular "energy pulses" which they say are intentionally trying to create an earthquake in the Gulf, which they will blame on today's solar eclipse... where do people come up with this stuff?
Praying for you, Diana.
Congratulations Mac and Alesia. So good to hear you have married! Also to Harold on having your new baby girl!
I take a few months off from blogging and everything happens at once.
Maranatha!
LORI,
in answer to your question "where do people come up with this stuff?"--nose candy! I had no idea what that meant until the conversation a few weeks back when BOO slipped away from his Sec. Serv. contingent and they accused him of going for some "nose candy". Funny things that you find answers to on the internet but especially Google.
he's crazy that much is obvious Lisa. At a guess patient is has paranoia with delusions of grandeur and I seriously doubt the Queen is stepping down for him anytime soon. I'd chalk this one up to mental illness and nothing else nefarious.
Jim C
saw that and with the info from Grany out of Ft Worth I do believe we are seeing the start of things.
Pray for some of us at our church. There are many who love Israel dearly at our church and the PCUSA general assembly just voted this last week to endorse the Kairos document-a travesty. per someone interviewed on the Prager show those who endorse Kairos are within the minority in the PCUSA but somehow they managed to get it through. I think if the individual presbyteries get to vote on it it will be quashed. They also voted against the redefinition of marriage but the board of pensions has been urges to give benefits to those with same sex partners. We are starting to look elsewhere for a church I think. Too bad as the pastor we have is quite sound but DH and I are struggling with this.
Diana
make sure they check your thyroid and for diabetes. praying for you also
Judy
just wanted to acknowledge you-great to "see" you.
GT
glad to see you back
Lisa, I may have run across "this guy" before. All I can say is that it's people like him that give conspiracy theorists a bad name! He appears to be linked with the "British Israel" movement, which teaches that Britain was settled by the lost 10 tribes, and as such the British monarchy contain the last living remnant of the Davidic line. Which means that when Jesus comes again, he will do so sitting on the Throne of England.
I wonder if "Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall" is related to Matreia?
(I have to confess: when I read the name "Golightly", all I could think of was "Holly Golightly" from "Breakfast at Tiffany's". "She's a phony, but she's a real phony.")
Anyway, here are some web sites where you can waste an afternoon reading up on this stuff:
British Israel? (from gracethrufaith.com)
British Freemasonry Covets Israel
IMPERIAL BRITISH-ISRAELISM: JUSTIFICATION FOR AN EMPIRE
This is a thesis written at Southern Methodist University about this subject.
The TRUTH about the British Monarchy; the "Golden Jubilee" (50 year reign) of the queen who never was and The GOSPEL of The Kingdom.
If I understand correctly, the guy is using the name "Jah" as in "Jah Vey", or Yahweh. His whole website "jahtruth.net" is chock full of interesting writings. In this particular page you'll see where he advocates the redistribution of Queen Elizabeth's wealth to the people (as, of course, the REAL Christ will do.)
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P.S. that previous "Comment Deleted" was mine.
Thanks for the prayers everyone. I figure if there is something wrong that will not go away and may even be progressive then the Lord can and will certainly use that to His glory. I have family members who need saved and a teen duaghter who needs to recommit to the Lord and if I have some sort of illness then it would be such a good thing to have it if the Lord used me in such a way as to bring glory to Him through those people turning to Him!
Jib; they checked my thyroid along with cbc, metabolic panel, B12, ANA, glucose and some other things relating to autoimmune disorderes. My glucose has actually been checked twice but neither were fasting glucose tets and they both came back fine.I'll let you all know once I find something out. I have been asking the Lord to let me know what it is, to give me a good doctor to diagnose.
Diana
Thanks for your prayers, Addison is home. Yeah!
Diana, I have been praying for you.
You have such a wonderful attitude...one that God will bless.
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Rom 8:28
How much more important is a soul won for eternity than any suffering we may endure. We know that nothing touches us except what Jesus allows for our or others' good.
The Refiner's fire brings out pure gold in the end.
When we all get to heaven we will know that it was worth it all! May Jesus come soon and may we be ready.
Vicki
The "British Israel" movement is a new one to me. The Anti-Christ will redistribute wealth as mentioned in Daniel so it fits w/the program. The New Age movement is big on it too.
THE REAL ROOT OF THE REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH:THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT
Did you see this one yet? King Tut’s DNA is Western European
Lisa, the Tut link doesn't work.
Good to hear about Addison, Lori.
We're getting ready to fly to New York on Thursday. Will be back Sunday.
Have a wonderful time in NY. I don't know where you're going there, but if by chance you get near Niagara Falls, there is the most beautiful state park an hour away in NY called Letchworth State Park. It's quite large and is referred to as "The Grand Canyon East of the Mississippi."
blessings for safe travel
I should have been more specific, Lori. We're headed for New York city. Apparently it's going to be hotter than Cleveland while we're there. Wooohooo :-(
I'm looking forward to paying my respects at the 9/11 site.
Enjoy the heat, Mac & Alesia! We've been feeling like bedouin in the desert the last few weeks here in Philly....grass is so dried out that dust kicks up with every step and all firework displays were cancelled for the 4th bc of fire hazards. The 90 degrees this week actually feels comfortable!
My DH got to travel to NYC 2 weeks after the 9/11 attacks and the rubble was still smoking. We went up for a weekend a year later and by then the site was cleared. Still very somber with the surrouding buildings draped and the fences lined with memorials. My favorite photo is of the steel cross that was created when the beams sheared off.
Safe travel blessings!
Jen
Cool time in the Okie hills and if you are looking for a sauna before dipping into a cool swimming pool, just step outside for a few minutes. Somebody got the routing directions mixed up for our weather this year and that is what they get for using the USPS to deliver the goods.
Hydiehooooo and Alesia, will be praying for your trip as Mr. and Mrs. So and So. May a cool breeze fill the byways and highways for you and all the others who feel like toast. When you get to that 9/ll site, will you speak to it and tell it that Grany said 'NO MOSQUE HERE EVER', please. It doesn't have to be a loud shout but just speak it out for all of us.
LORI, hug Add a son for me because my arms aren't long enough to do it for myself.
Gotta go, but Vicki I agree about Diana's sweet spirit. I still believe that God's word is true and by HIS STRIPES we are healed.
Grany
At the last minute, Landmarks Commission switches site of today's hearing about Ground Zero Islamic supremacist mega-mosque site
681 Park Avenue,
Hunter College Assembly Hall, Borough of Manhattan
(The entrance is on East 69th Street, between Park Avenue and Lexington Avenue).
Please bring a picture ID for entrance into the building.
The hearing will start at 2:00p.m. - end at 5:00p.m.
Telling the truth does not win you friends... ouch!
What's In a Name: Obama Can't Figure Out (Or Pretends He Can't) Why He Worries Israelis
Thanks Jen and Grany!!
This was a good site to pass along The Jewish Holidays- Simplified for Christians
new post at my blog on truth and control
Safe travel Mac and Alesia
Hoping not to ruin anyone's day but you have to read this report on BP's effort LATEST EFFORTS AND THE US GOV INTERFERENCE .
I hope all of you are praying for this very serious threat to our land, sea and existence.
Grany
1. See Israel and you'll never be the same
2. Archaeologists uncover Goliath's hometown
3. July 12, 10,000 rally for Jewish Rights on Temple Mount video picture show
4. Stone vessel with 'priestly inscription' uncovered in Jerusalem
5. March to the Temple Mount July 20 Tish B'av "We will call to the people and to the government of Israel to immediately build the end-time third Temple"
6. Hezbollah has 'large and precise' list of Israeli targets
7. Close to home: Hezbollah terrorists are plotting right on the US border
Mystery epidemic taking toll on Syrian military
From Terrorists to Role Models: The Palestinian Authority's Institutionalization of Incitement
I put a link on the last message, but it didn't come thru do to the fact that I forgot to add the title... ooops
Off The Wall News
Thanks Jib. Talk to you all when we get back.
A birdie whispered in my ear this morning that congratulations are in order for Mac and Alesia.
Congratulations and blessings, you two!
Just wanted to ask everyone to think cold thoughts my way. Right now it is almost 11:30 at night, and the heat index is 104.
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Jim C., We're not as hot as you but definetly FRYING! Everyone has been getting heat headaches.
But look @ the Russians-It blows my mind what Alkies they are!
Russian deaths mount as heatwave and vodka mix.
9-11 Christian Center at Ground Zero
we are sweltering also. heat index here for the weekend is supposed to be between 110-115! supposedly temps are supposed to get into the 90's at night but I was outside and it was more than 100 out still at 10pm so not sure when it got down to the 90's. our water is so hot right now we have no cold water coming out of the spigot.
but unlike you we don't have the humidity. the humidity has gone up to levels need for the monsoon rains to start but they have yet to do so and we realllly need some rain
CBO warns the nations
Something worth considering:
It's Prime Time To Dig Deep And Ask God To Cleanse You Of Untruths -- Hidden Or Other
Have we prayed to cast out possible untruth? Have we prayed to rid ourselves of any false conceptions we may possess about any aspect of life on earth -- especially our own walks with Jesus?
For this is how evil operates: it clutters. It complicates. It confuses. It makes right seem wrong and wrong right and plays on ego and works also on lack of faith.
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My bro-in-law's response to "did you feel the earthquake?" (They live in Arlington)
Yeah, I thought they bombed the Pentagon. It is now the second time I’ve thought that and looked out my window for a mushroom cloud. The other time was the morning they blew up the old Arlington Courthouse Building. Miyuki didn’t wake up for that…
They were in DC (he works for Commerce Dept, she World Bank) during 9/11 and had to walk home, not knowing where each other was or if they were okay. It must be difficult to always wonder if it'll happen again.
Jim C;
You might be interested in this. There is a facebook page for the purpose of supporting Dr. Ken, the UofI prof that was fired. The page is called Save Dr. Ken. For the first few days after the story hit the local news we did not hear anything more or see any editorials in the paper. After about three or 4 days we are seeing great support for him. There is a large student group protesting. Even an athiest group on campus is supporting him and his right to free speech. There is an article about it on Fox News this morning.
Diana
I just found out that the USGS has an RSS feed for earthquake happenings. Within the time it took to click on the feed and place on my homepage, there are 3 new ones since the Virginia, Maryland, one this morning. How exciting life is getting to be.
Hot in Okieland too with heat index 115. I am doing a WACO until this situation is cooled down.
Now you ask, 'what in the world is a WACO?'.
W=we
A=ain't
C=coming
O=out
Cool in, Grany and DJH out!
U.S. Authorities Shut Down WordPress Host With 73,000 Blogs . People come up w/creative titles such as one blogger blames it on the "Obamabots ". What a crack up!
I know this is going to upset some but I have to say it. A copyright is a legal instrument put in place by the author, creator of the material or company. It is done to protect their original product, whether it be music, books, videos or anything they have created. The laws have been on the books for a long time and just because this is the internet does not mean those laws can be ignored.
I have marveled at youtube getting past the copyright laws of artist and producers. Let's say you take the time to author a book, spend the money to have it produced and then market it for receive just payment for your work; wouldn't it jell your blood cells just a wee bit if someone recopied it and put it out on the vast expanse of the internet?
I have no pity for these people when they knew what they were doing was shop lifting in a broad senses of the word. Don't even try to pass the "they didn't realize they were doing anything wrong" bit on it. They knew the proper way to have access to the material was to purchase the article.
Another one not to try is "everyone was doing it and I just thought it was OK!" NOT! If there is crackdown in this sort of thing, it is long overdue.
That is my opinion on it and it will remain my opinion. What was a sin 3000 years ago is still a sin, no matter how modern we think the times are. Stealing is a criminal offense.
You could add boot-leg Dvd's to that list. I never understand why people accept boot-leg copies then act surprised when their computer gets a virus. I've been offered many diff. BL copies, but the most shocking was being offered a boot-leg copy of Passion of the Christ. I went and bought instead... Legal version! Lol
Turkish Christians in Danger
Hey, Grany, a question I've been meaning to ask but kept forgetting:
Did you catch the last episode of "Saving Grace"?
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JIM C.
Nope! Don't watch it and believe me, it does not represent Oklahoma as I know it. In fact, if the star of that show would show up in Oklahoma they would probably put her in jail to learn some manners. Do you remember those old westerns that Clint Eastwood made about the wild west? Well, that was fiction also. The last known renegade like the character portrayed in "Saving Grace" would have been Belle Starr and now her direct descendants are all law abiding business men and women. In fact, I have been told that the Special Prosecutor in the Bill Clinton trials is a direct descendant of Belle's. Ken Starr.
Hollywood needs to do more homework.
If I seem cranky tonight it is simply due to the heat. We have all the fans, air conditioning, ice tea, ice water going full steam and it is still hot. Our house has brick veneer on all four sides and it hold the heat longer than wood does. The next house I plan on building will be made of mud, underground and away from all highways, streets and commercial buildings.
Hot and sweating in Okieland,
Grany
Huh. I remember about two years ago it was one of your favorite shows. Every time I watched it I thought of you.
Anyway, I thought it was a good ending for the show.
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An underground house of mud? Does not sound too appealing! :)
We've been roasting all the way up here in New England, too. Very unusual to have it this hot and humid for so long!
It is all in His hands, praise God!
Grany, who said enforcing copyright laws, would upset anyone? I don't think as Christians (who are supposed to follow the laws) would be offended by that at all.
What they are trying to get across is that although they are in the right by cracking down on criminals- do they have to shut down that many bloggers to get at the few?
Is this a legit "test case"? A forerunner to heavy handedness over what is posted in the internet?
So if/when the "hate speech" law is fully enforced- will they shut down all of the Biblical Christian sites?
That is the aspect of the article that is concerning for Christians. Many feel that it is only a matter of time before we see this occur.
That's all.
Does anyone here read the "Tombstone Epitaph" newspaper?
It's written from Tombstone Arizona & has articles about the old west. D.H. loves it.
Royal astronomer: Aliens may be staring us in the faceAliens may be “staring us in the face” in a form humans are unable to recognise, the Queen’s astronomer has said.
Illinois office workers watch pieces falling off hovering daylight UFO
(There has been a plethora of UFO activity this year-BTW)
Donna, that actually doesn't sound so bad! If you check out some of the permaculture sites, you'll find some very interesting examples of such buildings.
The mud material is called "cob" or "cobb" (I've seen it spelled both ways), and it's a mixture of mud and straw. Think of it as an unfired adobe. After it dries, you can either leave it as is or you can cover it with a lime plaster (not concrete plaster, because the surface needs to breath). With a white lime plaster, you'll have a surface that will reflect a lot (but not all) of the sun's heat.
Unfortunately, cob's best attribute is that of a thermal mass (which is what Grany DOESN'T want right now). It has an R value of 0.5, meaning it's a lousy insulator, but it will store and release heat very well. This makes it an excellent choice where you have a lot of days that are very hot and nights that are very cold. If you add pumice to the cob at a 30% ratio, then you get SLIC -- Structural Lightweight Insulated Cob. This is cob that's strong enough to stand up to California's earthquake standards and has an R value of 1.
For future building, I'd recommend a Monolithic Dome. This is where a ring beam is poured with rebar, a form is attached to the rebar, then inflated. Once inflated, the inside is sprayed with foam. When the foam hardens, rebar is punched into it, leaving spaces for doors and windows. Then shotcrete (a mixture of concrete and nylon fibers) is sprayed onto the rebar to a depth of about 2 inches.
What you have then is an insulated concrete thermal mass that will take several months to warm up and then several months to cool down, evening out temperature fluctuations. It's possible to cool a 2,000 sq. ft dome with an air conditioner unit designed for an RV, and to heat the entire structure with a simple wood stove.
For now, your best bet is to get something to cover the brick walls on the sunward side. It might be too late to do anything this year, but in the future you can install a trellis and plant vines or ivy to block the direct sun from hitting the brick. You can also look at getting some kind of awning that you can put up in the spring (when you want to keep the sun from hitting the wall) and take down in the fall (when you want that sun's heat to heat up the brick).
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Donna, if you're interested in learning more about cob, you can check out these YouTube videos:
ecovillage with cob, wood & outdoor classroom
cob eco building village - cobville tour 1 of 2
And for a demonstration of building a rocket stove mass heater using cob, watch:
rocket stove mass heater workshop how to tutorial
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Jib, Ready for the blood to shoot out of your eyes? CHRISTIANITY TODAY WITH GOD AS “DIVINE DRAMA QUEEN”
Thanks, Jim, I will definitely check it out, probably tomorrow
Thanks!
Lisa
that is the type of drivel I've come to expect from that particular magazine. I didn't go read the whole article just the little bit from the link you posted was enough to make me sad and nauseous. I guess if I still thought Christianity today was a magazine reflecting true faith I'd be fairly mad but not so much. It is symptomatic of what is wrong with the church corporate today however. I don't know if you've read any of the stuff on my blog but I'm getting a little "heat" for lack of a better word for it. seems the elders would rather have a report on what the deacon's do or don't do on a monthly basis-the mundane if you will.
this article from Jack Kelly really articulates things well
Living the Christian life in Hard Times
now here's a chilling article
Obama moving away from Freedom of Religion to Freedom of Worship
this one is a long one but an absolute must read!
America's Ruling Class
A friend at church just sent this out. It's really good.
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“According to your love remember me, for you are good, O Lord.” Psalm 25:7
After hearing the fantastic and hard-to-believe news that she is soon to be the mother of Jesus, Mary responds with a simple phrase that speaks volumes about the willingness of her heart – “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered, “May it be to me as you have said.” (Luke 1:38)
I so admire Mary’s response that I set Luke 1:38 aside as a focus at the beginning of this year and on a small piece of paper I jotted down a phrase that I thought summarized the scripture and what I wanted the position of my heart to be: “I am the Lord’s servant,” I wrote, “do what you want with me.”
“Do what you want with me?”
I know it might sound good and holy, but looking back what I really meant was this: I am the Lord’s servant, so I’ll go ahead and lower
my hands so that you can slap me around and do what you want with me.
I love you so much, Jesus, that I’ll take whatever stuff you want to dish out. Go ahead and throw it all at me, God, because from You I can take anything.
Ouch.
“Taste and see that the Lord is GOOD.” Psalm 34:8
He is GOOD – why is it that we just can’t seem to get that?
Your Heavenly Father has such GOOD set aside for you, and not just for
someday in the future after you die, He wants you to have it now!
Eternal life – and not just for when you die, for now (John 4:14).
Life to the fullest – and not just for when you finally get it right,
for now (John 10:10).
Lately I find myself reevaluating what I thought of my Heavenly
Father, and if your view of Him is focused on anything other than His
extreme goodness, I encourage you to do the same.
He is GOOD, and I think I’m finally starting to get that.
Kiesha
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You can find more of Kiesha's devotionals at:
Deep Breaths of God - Devotions for an Overwhelmed World
Definitely worth checking out.
Sorry about those multiple posts. The last 7 deletions were simply duplicates. It didn't look like anything was posting. It kept giving me an error message and I didn't see anything posted on my end. Then when I navigated away from the cave and came back, I saw all the duplicates! Doesn't the number 8 represent God's grace? Well, that's how many times this message was posted and it really speaks of God's grace and goodness which I could use about now;-)
We're back safe and sound from New York. Hope everyone is well!
Kathy, good to hear from you and thank you for your well-wishes!
Jim G., I like how in Latin, Mary's response can be condensed into just two words that are easy to remember and say when you need some support:
TOTUS TUAM!
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Sorry about the amount of links today. I had a nasty heady-ache yesterday, so everything is together. Off the Wall News
This makes me angry...especially after hearing the testimony of one of the survivors.
The Truth about Islam at Ground Zero
I was looking through the articles on "Off The Wall", and I ran across this one on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak dying of cancer.
Looking at the photograph, I have to ask: is it just me, or does he look like a vampire?
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Yep, there's a bit of Bela Lugosi happening there, Jim.
Hi Alesia and GT,
Thanks for the congrats.
Mac and Alesia,
Congrats on the possible new home.
Late Night Lisa,
I read about the King Tut DNA discovery and thought is was pretty wild!
jib,
I read about the Obama Freedom of Religion changing to Freedom of Worship a couple of days ago and found it very disturbing!
Harold - Ruby is GORGEOUS!!!
Hi Harold, congats from me too. Hope you're getting enough sleep with the new baby!
Alesia and Mac,
Thanks again. Yeah, Ruby is gorgeous! Everybody says she looks exactly like me. I would have thought looking like me and being cute would have been mutually exclusive. :-)
My wife says she hopes Ruby grows up to look like a girl version of me. I am not sure if that is a good thing or not. :-)
As for getting enough sleep, I am getting more than my wife.
We have to Yorkies that are just over a year old. One of them likes to yip when she wants to be let out in the morning. Frequently, this has been at 6:00 a.m. (or earlier) lately. She will hear my wife feeding Ruby and then decide it is time to bark.
It has become a bit of a vicious circle. Ruby is asleep and the Yorkies decide it is a good time to start fighting and barking. This, of course, frequently wakes up Ruby...or Ruby will cry and wake up the Yorkies.
Some nights, we have a really hard time getting Ruby to go to sleep. I was sitting on the couch with her, watching T.V. until 2:30 a.m. one night/morning until I finally got her to go to sleep. I very carefully slid to the edge of the couch, slowly got up and tried to ever so carefully walk out of the room towards the stairs. I got partway out of the room and one of the Yorkies started barking at me, which, of course, woke up Ruby.
It made me sorry I had saved the Yorkies from getting mauled by my parent's Malamute/Shepard cross a few months ago (completely tearing the ligament in my left thumb in the process, requiring months of recovery). It is a good thing my wife and I love those dogs so much or... :-)
she is very cute!
Harold did you read the longer article I posted about the ruling class from Am Spec. it is about the best written piece I've seen on our current political situation and our country.
and yes I do agree Mubarak is definitely channeling Dracula
Lisa
just realized didn't answer about the whole beach thing-until the autopsies are down i wouldn't blame it on the oil spill or toxic fumes
Mac
interesting video
Funny you should mention the vampire association as I've always thought he looked a bit like Grandpa Al Lewis :-)
He does look like the vampire of yester-year. In the days they had a sinister feel to them. Now they don't look like the old fashion type. Much more appealing & sexy- the stuff of romance novels.
Speaking of romance novels-I went into a used paperback bookstore & was floored by all of the young women going into trade/buy romance novels.
I was thinking-geeze-lust driven sales!
Interesting, rustic options for homes in those links, Jim...who knows we may all wind up in homes like that at some pt in time until He comes for us and takes us with Him!
Harold...your daughter is absolutely adorable!!! Congratulations!!!!
I was hoping you all could say a prayer for one of my daughters who is out of state now participating in a once in a lifetime event...but she's been fainting again. It may sound like a silly thing to be asking you all to pray for, but I would really appreciate your help!
Thanks you!
I agree, Lisa, its too bad so many people are caught up reading all the crap that's out there when there are so many other things going on (like current events~Bible prophecy) that people can be focusing on.
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Maranatha...soon!!!
Lisa, I wouldn't be so quick to cut down those women buying romance novels. For one thing, it's not a new phenomenon. In any and every used book store I've visited, the largest section has always been the romance novel section. For another thing, I recall a study several years ago that indicated that women who read romance novels were more satisfied with their marriages. I believe one reason given (but not proved) was that these women did not expect or require that their husbands be constant or ultimate "romancers".
Beaker EXPLODES after test of gulf waters!
Jim C, I don't doubt the statistics may be accurate since these women are substituting the real deal for fantasy. Since the need is somehow being met they don't require as much attention from their mates.
But as a Christian- is that something we should entertain?
Is there a difference in the heart of a woman mentally fantasizing being w/a man though reading a romance novel or the heart of a man fantasizing being w/a woman by looking at pornographic material?
If there is I don't see it. To me it's a different way of accomplishing the same thing.
"..these women did not expect or require that their husbands be constant or ultimate "romancers".
(That quote is a hoot!)
First few links today:
1. Computers to translate world's 'lost' languages after program deciphers ancient text
2. Environmentalists urge closure of Jordan River baptism site over poor water quality
3. Commercially sized oil field found in central Israel
4. Israel's southern border wide open and undefended
5. Outgoing UN envoy: 'Israel is world's most isolated country' “Out of some 40 resolutions adopted since 2006, more than 70 percent target Israel, while granting impunity to Hamas terror,” Neuer said of the Human Rights Council. “Victims of abuses worldwide are ignored. The [HRC] currently has multiple inquiries under way against democratic Israel, yet none on massacres committed by gross violators like China, Iran, Sudan, or Kyrgyzstan."
6. Pro-Israel Christians meet in Washington
7. Dissent or Destruction?
8. Brazil allocates $14 mln to Gaza Strip
9. Abbas Does Not Want to Negotiate with Israel; He Demands That Israel Concede
10. Four Iran MPs plan Gaza trip
11. Russian gift to PA: 50 armored personnel carriers
12. Hezbollah deploys thousands of terrorists near border
13. Hezbollah prepares for war based on using civilians as shields
14. Israel to send 4 drones to Turkey
15. Egyptian, Turkish presidents discuss Mideast peace process
16. Turkey, and NCyprus sign long-awaited water deal
17. Suspected Kurdish rebels blow up Iranian-Turkish pipeline
18. Larijani: US support for UN Resolution disrespect for Turkey, Brazil
19. Iran's lawmakers authorize retaliation for int'l inspections of air, sea cargo
20. Iran tells Muslims to fight 'savage' US, British terrorism
21. Iran to conduct studies for nuclear fusion reactor
22. Iran and Saudi Arabia closing in on cooperation
28. Russia cancels Afghanistan's debts (debt write off $12 billion)
31. Russian president wants visa-free travel to EU
33. China oil spill doubles in size, called 'severe threat'
48. Whale of a tale! 40-ton mammal lands on yacht
Off The Wall News
BOYCOTT! The Home Depot promotes the homosexual agenda
Are World Powers Waiting For Vatican Approval Before Full UFO / Alien Disclosure?
Lisa, that links to Lamb Riding Academy... lol
try this one Are World Powers Waiting For Vatican Approval Before Full UFO / Alien Disclosure? I haven't read it yet...
Jan Markell talks to Rich Christiano about UFOs and a new movie.
jib and donna,
Thanks for the compliments on Ruby. She is only 5 weeks old now, but she has started to smile at us the last couple of days. I am not talking about the "I have gas" smile, which she has done for weeks. I mean a real smile! I didn't know that babies started smiling this early, but I guess they can. It was one of the most amazing and touching things I have ever seen!
jib,
re: Harold did you read the longer article I posted about the ruling class from Am Spec. it is about the best written piece I've seen on our current political situation and our country.
No, I hadn't read that, but I have a browser tab open to it now (one of about 20 tabs). I will hopefully get a chance to read it in the next day or two. Thanks.
I have been spending so much time tracking what is going on in U.S. politics (watching Glenn Beck every night, ordering almost every book he suggests (hopefully I will get a chance to read them all someday), and reading waaaayyyyy to many articles.
I have almost no idea what is going on in politics in Canada or my own city right now, as there is not time left to follow that as well.
Canada's economy is doing so much better (at least on the surface), than the U.S. economy.
Our PM, Stephen Harper, is a born-again Christian and a Conservative. These are two very rare things in Canada, as Canada is traditionally ridiculously liberal.
Unlike Obozo, Harper is actually an economist by schooling, so he actually knows something about finance (unlike the Harvard professor).
It is amazing the disconnect between the way that Canada and now Europe are cutting their deficits (realizing that the building is on fire and getting the heck out), while Obozo is running back into the building with a can of gas in his hand and trying to talk the others into following him.
That being said, that is really his plan isn't it? Obozo wants to destroy the U.S. economy, so he can insert a new system (Monopoly Communism). I shouldn't say Obozo wants to do this. It is the people who are pulling his strings that want to do this. They are going to throw Obozo away when they are through with him. Judging by his horrible polling numbers, that might be sooner rather than later.
So...is Hillary going to win in 2012? Wouldn't that be a treat? I see that Bill's numbers are a lot better than Obozo right now. Can he run again, or are you limited to 2 terms in a life time. We don't have any such sanity checks in Canada. We had Jean Chretien as PM for a miserable 10 years.
Bill Clinton can't hold the office of President again.
The 23rd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states:
Section 1
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Jim G,
Thanks for the info. I think the two term limit was brought in almost immediately after FDR's death. He had been elected for four terms and people were scared that it might happen again. There sure are a lot of parallels between what FDR did in office and what Obama is doing and none of them are good.
Jim G., the key word in the amendment is "elected." There are (legal) ways around this. IN particular, you have a situation where Smith is elected President while Bill Clinton is elected to the Vice President position. Smith resigns as president so Clinton becomes president. If they want to try for two terms, have Congress make Smith VP; then we do the same dance again: Clinton resigns, Smith becomes president, Clinton is made VP; after the election the same thing happens all over again. Frankly, I can see this happening for one term, but I can't see the American people tolerating and approving such an end run around the intents of the Constitution.
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Lori- Well you'll see my daughter's picture riding a horse(;
Just making sure everyone's awake- had is planned all along! (yeah right!)
Ok- Here it is again:
Are World Powers Waiting For Vatican Approval Before Full UFO / Alien Disclosure?
Jim C.,
Bill Clinton can't be elected Vice President because the 25th Amendment says in part: "...no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States" and of course the 23rd Amendment makes him constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of President due to the fact that he has already served two full terms.
Get Ready! Stay Ready! Be Ready!
(The Rapture)
Earthquakes Strike Philippines Moro Gulf, Indonesia’s Sumatra
Jim G.; yes, well, we all know how much the Democrats LUV the Constitution; and if the Supreme Court says it's OK, well, it must be OK.
I'm feeling a little snarky, because I've been reading about the Missouri Test Oath. Here's an article about it from the Catholic Encyclopedia. I have to quote from CE because it's one of those very important events in history that have been brushed aside.
The 1865 Missouri Constitution required that people take a very extreme loyalty oath before they could be jurors, lawyers, judges, etc. It also required that bishops, priests, or other clergymen "of any religious persuasion, sect or denomination", had to take the oath before they could "preach, solemnize marriage, or teach." Failure to file your sworn and signed oath would result in imprisonment and fines.
The Most Rev. Peter Richard Kenrick, Roman Catholic Archbishop of St. Louis sent a letter (written in Latin, as the privacy of the post could not be guaranteed) advised all the priests under him that taking the oath would be accepting that a civil authority had the authority to decide religious matters. He did not tell the priests not to take the oath, only that they should inform him if the law were enforced.
After the deadline passed, priests, bishops, and nuns (since they couldn't teach without taking the oath) were either arrested and imprisoned or went into hiding. This went on for two years until the US Supreme Court heard the case. In the end, they voted to strike down the Test Oath.
By one (1) vote.
Given the times we live in, I'm frightened by the fact that my ability to practice my faith (and your faith, too, since no one could preach the Word of God without first having taken the oath) hinged on a single vote. I'm even more concerned that this milestone in religious liberty has been so ignored that the only references I can find on them using Google refer either to the Catholic Encyclopedia, an Answers.com article on Test Oaths and another on Cummings v. Missouri, neither of which mention the religious nature of the original conviction, and a number of biographies of the Supreme Court justices at the time, saying how they voted.
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Jim C.,
Hopefully this isn't too near you.
Dam fails in eastern Iowa, causing massive flooding
Jim G., it's closer than I want it to be, but it's on a different river system than where I live. If you type "Lake Delhi Rec Dam, IA" into Google Maps, you'll get a map of Eastern Iowa centered on the dam. I'm down by Iowa City. If you zoom in a couple of clicks, you'll see Hopkinton, and you can drag the map along the river to find Montecello. The river is BEAUTIFUL by Montecello, and I always love driving up there when the leaves change color.
But I'm not going to be driving anywhere near there for the next few days.
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P.S. if you go to http://www.kgan.com/newsroom/ you'll see video of the collapse. Crews have been working since this morning to try and shore up the dam, but failed. There was a news crew on site, and they caught the final collapse. It also shows what the river has been doing to the towns. No commentary, just video.
Jim C.,
Here's the text of the Loyalty Oath:
SEC. 6. The oath to be taken as aforesaid shall be known as the Oath of Loyalty, and shall be in the following terms:
'I, A. B., do solemnly swear that I am well acquainted with the terms of the third section of the second article of the Constitution of the State of Missouri, adopted in the year eighteen hundred and sixty-five, and have carefully considered the same; that I have never, directly or indirectly, done any of the acts in said section specified; that I have always been truly and loyally on the side of the United States against all enemies thereof, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the United States, and will support the Constitution and laws thereof as the supreme law of the land, any law or ordinance of any State to the contrary notwithstanding; that I will, to the best of my ability, protect and defend the Union of the United States, and not allow the same to be broken up and dissolved, or the government thereof to be destroyed or overthrown, under any circumstances, if in my power to prevent it; that I will support the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and that I make this oath without any mental reservation or evasion, and hold it to be binding on me.'
CUMMINGS v. THE STATE OF MISSOURI
Jim C.,
I'm always bothered when folks either confuse or fail to see the difference between the question of whether a law is unconstitutional and the question of whether a law is good public policy.
The proper role of the Supreme Court in my opionion is the former and not the latter. As Justice Miller wrote in the last line of his dissenting opinion to which three other Justices joined:
"...I have endeavored to bring to the examination of the grave questions of constitutional law involved in this inquiry those principles alone which are calculated to assist in determining what the law is, rather than what, in my private judgment, it ought to be."
It is an interesting case. Be sure and read the full dissenting opinion which applied to both this case and the next. The dissenting opinion can be found (near the end, of course) here:
EX PARTE GARLAND
Poor kid. Too bad a Christian isn't around who can deliver him.
Saudi man chains his son in the basement for six years because he is 'possessed by an evil female genie'
Jim G.,
Thanks for the links to the texts of the "CUMMINGS v. THE STATE OF MISSOURI" and "EX PARTE GARLAND" cases. I found the "EX PARTE GARLAND" case (and especially the dissenting opinion) most enlightening, as well as the most dangerous. It is well reasoned and contained a great many examples from previous decisions that I can understand and agree with. Unfortunately, it does so in such a way as to bolster current attempts to separate "worship" (those external acts that define belief) from "religion" (the internal conscience and interior act of will that define belief). The case cited ("Permoli v. Municipality No. 1 of the City of New Orleans", 1845) had to do with the ability of a local municipality to regulate matters of public health. During an outbreak of yellow fever, New Orleans passed a law stating that all funerals had to occur in the mortuary chapel. This was designed to minimize transmission of yellow fever and other illnesses, the law having been passed before the means of transmission of yellow fever were understood. (The solution, BTW, was eventually resolved through free enterprise, to whit, mortuaries who wanted to cater to the Catholic community built chapels on their properties that were consecrated for use by Catholics for funerals, thus answering both the needs of the law and the needs of the Catholic communities.) The Supreme Court, in deciding the case, held that it had no jurisdiction in the case. Using today's language, it held that this was not a case of "freedom of religion" but "freedom of worship", which was to be regulated by the individual states.
By citing this example, the Court equated an external act of worship with an interior act of belief. The Roman Catholic rules requiring that a funeral mass be held in a sanctified space is an external act of worship that can be suspended during times of necessity. (Why this wasn't done by the Archbishop of New Orleans at the time I don't know.) In the case of "CUMMINGS v. THE STATE OF MISSOURI", the dissenting opinion (which was attached to "EX PARTE GARLAND") made an equivalency to a lawyer's previous actions (i.e., external acts of worship) and his internal beliefs in saying that if someone thought the Confederate cause was just, then he can be considered forever tainted and thus unfit to practice law in Missouri. By equating the Missouri Test Oath with laws requiring judges to retire after reaching a particular age, the justices equated something that cannot change and applies to everyone (growing older) with an interior act of will, which is individual and CAN change.
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(cont. from above)
The dissenting opinion wanted to say that the Supreme Court of the US did not have jurisdiction, since regulation of religious matters is relegated by the Constitution to the several states. What the dissenting justices failed to consider was the difference between worship and religion. As a matter of dogma Roman Catholic priests COULD NOT sign the test oath, not without breaking their sacred vows. One of the vows you take as a priest is to never reveal the contents of Holy Confession. (The priest is acting as a witness to what is being confessed to G_D, and offers absolution in the Name of G_D.) Literally hundreds of priests have died under torture rather than reveal the contents of Holy Confession. If you read the contents of Section 3 of the Missouri Constitution of 1865, you'll find that it is so broad, so all-encompassing, that I don't see how anyone in Missouri at the time could sign it without perjuring themselves. In the case of Roman Catholic priests, it's even more serious. Priests are required to provide succor and comfort to ANYONE AND EVERYONE, friend and foe alike. If a rebel band came and asked to sleep in the barn, the priest (under the rules of Christian charity) would be required to allow that, and also provide food and drink, unless there was some compelling reason otherwise. Since the contents of Holy Confession cannot be revealed (the Seal of the Confessional), for them to sign a statement saying that they had never advised any of the rebels would be either perjury or revealing of a confession. They also could not sign it if they had ever gone out to the field and offered spiritual comfort to any of the wounded or dying, since they could not offer it to one side and not the other. Thus, the Missouri Constitution, in regards to religion, did indeed "limit the free exercise thereof."
To me, this is clear. It is NOT clear, though, if you do not recognize the difference between worship and religion, which is where I believe most of the judicial system is at today. At least now, after reading the dissenting opinion, I understand why this case was argued as "bill of attainder" and "ex post facto" violations of the US Constitution, and not religious violations. While the constitution required the oath of lawyers, teachers, and religious workers, as far as I can find it was only applied against religious workers, and specifically against priests and nuns.
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Jim C.,
You wrote:
"The Supreme Court, in deciding the case, held that it had no jurisdiction in the case. Using today's language, it held that this was not a case of "freedom of religion" but "freedom of worship", which was to be regulated by the individual states."
It looks to me like you misunderstood the Supreme Court's reasoning in that case. The Court in that case was not (as far as I can see) making some sort of distinction between "freedom of religion" and "freedom of worship."
From our modern day perspective, it might be hard to see but back then, the First Amendment was understood to apply to Congress but not the States. The language was (and is) quite clear. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Look up the legal doctrine known as "incorporation." Wiki has a good explanation here:
Incorporation of the Bill of Rights
Anyway back in 1845, when the Permoli case was heard, nobody thought that the First Amendment placed any restrictions on state and local governments. Making a distinction between ""freedom of religion" and "freedom of worship" was not necessary. You can read the Supreme Court's opinion here:
BERNARD PERMOLI, PLAINTIFF IN ERROR, v. MUNICIPALITY No. 1 OF THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS,
Jim C.,
I found this "testimony" interesting in the Permoli case:
'The Right Reverend A. Blanc, Bishop of New Orleans, testified that the dogmas of the Roman Catholic religion did not require that the dead should be brought to a church, in order that the funeral ceremonies should be performed over them; that this was a matter of discipline only; that the witness, as bishop of this diocese, had authorized the clergy to leave the cathedral, and not to officiate at funeral rites at the obituary chapel, and that these ceremonies might be celebrated at the house where the dead person expired, or at any other place designated by the bishop.'
Jim C.,
One more thing.
Just because a Supreme Court opinion may seem dangerous does not mean it is wrong or legally flawed. People shouldn't come to the Supreme Court and argue that something is unconstitutional because it is "dangerous." Actually, there are many people who do argue that the Constitution should be interepreted with a view towards what is safe and pragmatic and most appropriate for today. It's sometimes referred to as a "living Constition" by those who like to allow Justices much latitude to find what they like in the Constitution and take out what they don't like. I'd prefer that this be done through the Amendment process outlined in the U.S. Constitution rather than through judicial fiat and legal gymnastics.
I think I'm feeling a little snarky, too but I rally do love you brother and always appreciate your thoughtful comments.
Make that "really do love you."
All that legal stuff confuses my brain and gives me a headache.
You're right Hyde. I suppose we were getting a bit too legalistic.
that was a bad pun I hope :-)
need some info
1-does anyone know of a Koinia group in Texas that sound rather like an old amish order? no electricity, use horses, make pottery, men get served food first, women less than dirt etc. not the one in GA but specifically one in the San Antonio area
2 does any one remember an article that was written about the historical roots or lack thereof of the Palestinian people to the area of Israel? the article even went to the length of tracing the original inhabitants of the Gaza area and the rest of Canaan and proved that they had no links to the present day Palestinians
Yes, Jib. It was. Perhaps this passage from 1 Corinthians would have served as a more fitting comment:
"All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful.
P.S. All puns are lawful, but only some are awful.
Still not as good as the OTC one I shared with you though.
Hyde, I'm w/you on the legal stuff. Major headache. Feels like listening to static blasting on the radio or TV set.
Jib, I don't know if Jacob Prasch wrote that article but he is a great source for historical information & does address this Palestinian issue directly in the book: Israel, the Church, and the Jews. He could also have something written under the articles tab on the Moriel website.
The latest Perry Stone teaching on the 7th Trumpet was good too. Has quite a bit of explaination re: Pre-Wrath.
Jib, Haven't heard about that group in San Antonio but Darren from Streetscape Ministries is out of Galveston TX, so he may know something if you want to call him.
Streetscape Ministries
Jib,
Here is an excellent article that I posted earlier this month on my site.
The Truth about Palestine
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